Undertale Battle Engine (D-Engine Month, released Deltarune X Undertale as Beta )

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NightmareGaze wrote:

-_-GetGood wrote:

tbh deltarune bosses tend to be harder then sans and undyne the undying can be harder then sans considering that sans follows a pattern but undyne doesnt and their attacks can be random and much harder to memorize due to how undynes attacks all tend to be faster then sans, lets keep in mind sans first 3 attacks are easier then undyne the undyings first attack.


I personally find Deltarune's bosses a lot easier. I think what makes them easier is that you can heal while still attacking. That being said, the Sans battle that I have linked above is much much more difficult than any Deltarune or Undertale boss.
oh, so jevil is easier then that average sans link?
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cs3095369 wrote:

Undertalebuffer wrote:

Undertalebuffer wrote:

Undertalebuffer wrote:

NightmareGaze wrote:

Undertalebuffer wrote:

NightmareGaze wrote:

cs3095369 wrote:

scratch7000000 wrote:

okay trying to get back on topic what's your favorite undertale boss?
sans is a fun bossfight, even if it is overrated.


I am genuinely curious about what makes it overrated.
to many people made him too important to the story and claimed that he was the hardest undertale boss, now everyone believes this and it's gotten out of hand

Yet sans does contribute to the interesting mystery of Undertale lore. We don't know what exactly, but we know that there's something. Also, Sans is the hardest Undertale boss, objectively speaking. However, Undyne the undying is close behind for most people.
Ya, well what i'm meaning(Please don't take as another argument) is people have made him important to every part of undertale and turned him into a huge meme, I also have theory abt undyne if your willing to hear?
Specifically the relationship between undyne the undying, determination, alphys, and why undyne and alphys are together.
I also agree that sans is very important, but he is not the only thing about undertale
Yeah, but most people overuse him (500+ AU's anyone?). He is an important character in the lore of Undertale, I have to agree.
its because hes an overrated character and the first character players tend to know because the fandom and fanbase make it as if hes the only character, so what could you expect? in the lore hes about as important as other characters like papryus and undyne, people just overuse him in everything.
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NightmareGaze wrote:

doggy_boi1 wrote:

don't go off topic and I'm not requesting for st to delete it because they are doing other more important things (like moderating the website and stuff). I deleted it because I did and I have no idea why my method of removing text matters to you guys. I will report any more quoting of this as being off-topic because it is.

NightmareGaze wrote:

doggy_boi1 wrote:

redstonetoad wrote:

doggy_boi1 wrote:

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???
you can´t delete posts


You can request the Scratch Team to delete them.
the world is probably going to end by 2080 due to global warming or nuclear warfare and the last thing we need to worry about is if I took appropriate measures to delete a post.


This has to be the most irrelevant thing in this forum post.
what you just said had to be the most incorrect and insensitive thing on this forum.
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you guys would rather talk about how global warming is irrelevant and not how global warming will wipe away all of existence.

-_-GetGood wrote:

NightmareGaze wrote:

-_-GetGood wrote:

tbh deltarune bosses tend to be harder then sans and undyne the undying can be harder then sans considering that sans follows a pattern but undyne doesnt and their attacks can be random and much harder to memorize due to how undynes attacks all tend to be faster then sans, lets keep in mind sans first 3 attacks are easier then undyne the undyings first attack.


I personally find Deltarune's bosses a lot easier. I think what makes them easier is that you can heal while still attacking. That being said, the Sans battle that I have linked above is much much more difficult than any Deltarune or Undertale boss.
oh, so jevil is easier then that average sans link?


I have no idea what “Sans link” means. I beat Jevils in 7 tries. Sans took way more.

-_-GetGood wrote:

what you just said had to be the most incorrect and insensitive thing on this forum.


It still doesn't change the fact that it's completely irrelevant to this forum's topic. If you wish to discuss issues about global warming, this is not the right forum for this.
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NightmareGaze wrote:

-_-GetGood wrote:

what you just said had to be the most incorrect and insensitive thing on this forum.


It still doesn't change the fact that it's completely irrelevant to this forum's topic. If you wish to discuss issues about global warming, this is not the right forum for this.
neither is what you talk about over half the time to be honest.
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NightmareGaze wrote:

-_-GetGood wrote:

NightmareGaze wrote:

-_-GetGood wrote:

tbh deltarune bosses tend to be harder then sans and undyne the undying can be harder then sans considering that sans follows a pattern but undyne doesnt and their attacks can be random and much harder to memorize due to how undynes attacks all tend to be faster then sans, lets keep in mind sans first 3 attacks are easier then undyne the undyings first attack.


I personally find Deltarune's bosses a lot easier. I think what makes them easier is that you can heal while still attacking. That being said, the Sans battle that I have linked above is much much more difficult than any Deltarune or Undertale boss.
oh, so jevil is easier then that average sans link?


I have no idea what “Sans link” means. I beat Jevils in 7 tries. Sans took way more.
to be fair thats probably because your mind made you think sans was harder then he actually is, which can really screw you up. which includes side effects such as sweaty hands. also, how do you not know what you were talking about mere messages ago?

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to be fair thats probably because your mind made you think sans was harder then he actually is, which can really screw you up. which includes side effects such as sweaty hands. also, how do you not know what you were talking about mere messages ago?


Armchair psychologist? Not only does that not make any sense (using your logic, I should have the same effect with Jevils (cause he's harder)). It's a completely incorrect assessment given how different these two fights are.

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NightmareGaze wrote:

-_-GetGood wrote:

what you just said had to be the most incorrect and insensitive thing on this forum.


It still doesn't change the fact that it's completely irrelevant to this forum's topic. If you wish to discuss issues about global warming, this is not the right forum for this.
neither is what you talk about over half the time to be honest.


Understandable, but that still doesn't change the fact that it's irrelevant.
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you guys would rather talk about how global warming is irrelevant and not how global warming will wipe away all of existence.
dude, everyone is ignoring what I said and is going “wElL gLoBaL wArMinG aNd NuClEaR WarFarE wOn'T wIpE uS oUt bY 2080” (even though the current heat projections and nuclear threats are at an all time high, meaning someone did not do do their research). What I said wasn't about that and I don't even think I wanna continue following this forum (don't say that you don't care because I already know that) because everyone says random smit and argues 24/7, so much so that it fills up my inbox with useless spam. The forum has been shut down twice (once for about 12h and once for over a month) and is probably going to be shut down again permanently. please don't fill up the forum with replies saying that you do not care as I am only saying this to ask that the forum users follow cg so that Nivalosha can continue to share their wonderful work with the world. I am also stating this so that people stop commenting about this forum on my profile. So for the final time DO NOT REPLY TO THIS SAYING THAT YOU DO NOT CARE, IT IS SPAM AND AGAINST CG. I PERSONALLY WILL NOT BE OFFENDED BUT IT MAKES USING THE FORUMS HARDER AND WILL BUMP THIS DEAD TOPIC WITHOUT ACTUALLY ATTEMPTING TO REVIVE IT, AND IT PUSHES AN ACTIVE DISSCUSSION OFF OF THE FIRST PAGE. BY QUOTING THIS YOU ARE NOT FUNNY, I AM NOT OFFENDED, YOU ARE A CLOWN AND ARE ACTIVELY BEING A B-SH TO OTHER FORUM MEMBER (INCLUDING THOSE OUTSIDE OF THIS FORUM

this forum sucks and I don't want anyone to ask me about it, tell me about it, or speak of me as if I am related to it. You can say whatever you will about me and my opinion but FYI; I won't see it and I don't wish to be told about. If the forum gets shut down because people are saying mean things about me or others then it is not my problem and do not want anyone to tell me about it. So again, this message is not about me, but about others ruining the forum for others, please stop, we don't like you. I come to scratch to have fun, and this is not fun, so I'm not doing this anymore. I said what I said and I hope others will see my main point instead of cherry-picking the fact that I just also pushed an active discussion off the first page (Yes, you were definitely going to say that so don't even). I said all that I wanted to say, so come at me, I am not replying considering that I made my point stupidly clear.

doggy_boi1 wrote:

dude, everyone is ignoring what I said and is going “wElL gLoBaL wArMinG aNd NuClEaR WarFarE wOn'T wIpE uS oUt bY 2080” (even though the current heat projections and nuclear threats are at an all time high, meaning someone did not do do their research).

What research? By whom? Was it peer-reviewed? Which study? Which country? Do you have a source for this?

(I won't quote the rest)

I perfectly see and understand your viewpoint, but you are contradicting yourself. If you remember, we have been warned multiple times by Scratch Team to stay on topic. Discussing global warming on this forum is off-topic and goes against what the Scratch Team asked us NOT to do.


NightmareGaze wrote:

-_-GetGood wrote:

NightmareGaze wrote:

-_-GetGood wrote:

tbh deltarune bosses tend to be harder then sans and undyne the undying can be harder then sans considering that sans follows a pattern but undyne doesnt and their attacks can be random and much harder to memorize due to how undynes attacks all tend to be faster then sans, lets keep in mind sans first 3 attacks are easier then undyne the undyings first attack.


I personally find Deltarune's bosses a lot easier. I think what makes them easier is that you can heal while still attacking. That being said, the Sans battle that I have linked above is much much more difficult than any Deltarune or Undertale boss.
oh, so jevil is easier then that average sans link?


I have no idea what “Sans link” means. I beat Jevils in 7 tries. Sans took way more.
For me it was the opposite

Undertalebuffer wrote:

NightmareGaze wrote:

-_-GetGood wrote:

NightmareGaze wrote:

-_-GetGood wrote:

tbh deltarune bosses tend to be harder then sans and undyne the undying can be harder then sans considering that sans follows a pattern but undyne doesnt and their attacks can be random and much harder to memorize due to how undynes attacks all tend to be faster then sans, lets keep in mind sans first 3 attacks are easier then undyne the undyings first attack.


I personally find Deltarune's bosses a lot easier. I think what makes them easier is that you can heal while still attacking. That being said, the Sans battle that I have linked above is much much more difficult than any Deltarune or Undertale boss.
oh, so jevil is easier then that average sans link?


I have no idea what “Sans link” means. I beat Jevils in 7 tries. Sans took way more.
For me it was the opposite
I still find deltarune to be easier than undertale though, but deltarune still has 5 chapter's left to prove me wrong
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-_-GetGood wrote:

you guys would rather talk about how global warming is irrelevant and not how global warming will wipe away all of existence.
Because it'z off topic -_-

Chance_1212 wrote:

H
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My return! To this forum!
…this place is still, ah… weLL.
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leonardios_Terraria wrote:

My return! To this forum!
…this place is still, ah… weLL.
your quote tho, i thought it said ohio crew but i've read that wrong
This place is worse than Ohio

UF_toriel wrote:

leonardios_Terraria wrote:

My return! To this forum!
…this place is still, ah… weLL.
your quote tho, i thought it said ohio crew but i've read that wrong

This place is worse than Ohio ☠☠

UF_toriel wrote:

leonardios_Terraria wrote:

My return! To this forum!
…this place is still, ah… weLL.
your quote tho, i thought it said ohio crew but i've read that wrong

I was homestucked, around 13 years too late.
But Derse is pretty similar to Ohio, haha.
Wait guys how do i remove quotes so i dont have like so much quotes on top of my quote (if there is some way to do this)
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Nivalosha wrote:

An update on the whole engine

Since the post got locked by accident for a full month, let me break down the status on the engine and what to expect.

The engine is being fully re-coded, the fatal error was about the new code being built on old code. Which created a lot of issues, I have no problems recording the whole thing as the previous code navigation was somewhat messy. The broadcast events were unorganized, the variables were over-used, and the list method was just too confusing.

-Exact Undertale Damage system
The previous system was based on how I thought the Undertale damage system worked, after doing deeper research, I realized most of my damage system had been coded incorrectly. So the new engine will feature very accurate formulas from Undertale.


New engine will now include:

-Multi monster system
You will now have the ability to add three monsters to the fight. Unfortunately, due to scratch limits, I cannot create the fancy dust effect for multi-monsters, this option will still be a thing only for one monster.
A new GUI method will be introduced, it's called enemy profiling. Each enemy profile can support up to three enemies (can be the same ones). To add enemies to this profile, you'll have to use the Enemy creator GUI.

Enemy Profiling will include:
Enemies (up to three), selected OST, and background.

Enemy Creator will include:
-All of the enemy base stats
-Enemies name
-Special editor (gives you more control over damage system)
-Enemy sprite selector

-Another feature that's under question


-Overworld editor (GUI)
Overworld editor will be a feature that allows you to create your very own overworld system with a special editor.
This editor will feature:
-Tile selection (all zones tiles will be included)
-Brush sizes
-Encounter points (with messages)
-Areas where enemies can occur with delay and rate
-Collision system
-Camera control
-Room node system, A to D, meaning you can have a room with 4 possible exits. The node system will be another GUI that will help you link rooms with one another.
-Background selector

-Another feature under question (with animation)


Multiplayer and CO-OP
CO-OP
You can play with someone on one keyboard, giving WASD and Arrow keys (can be reversed in settings) controls.

Multiplayer
You will have the ability to play with 3 people on cloud (all must be Scratchers rank). In settings, you can whitelist usernames that you want to play with.
I am unsure how this will work once all of you are in the overworld, but I'm already aware of how it will work during a battle.



That's about all, have fun.



New update!!! Also art by me[/quote
im gonna need a turbowarp link
Alright 1st can yall Stop saying sans is harder or esayer then something
2ed pls stop MASS QUOTEING
3ed some bosses will be esayer for you then they are for other people this depends on how you play also pls stopp argueing over witch boss is hard as it is diffrent for multiple people.


Fianly back on topic what are you looking forword to most about the project getting released

UndertaleLordOfGames wrote:

Alright 1st can yall Stop saying sans is harder or esayer then something
2ed pls stop MASS QUOTEING
3ed some bosses will be esayer for you then they are for other people this depends on how you play also pls stopp argueing over witch boss is hard as it is diffrent for multiple people.


Fianly back on topic what are you looking forword to most about the project getting released

wait was looking at padge 124 when I made this sorry
will the code be in english? there are hundreds of engines in different languages without a translator..

inferno22306 wrote:

will the code be in english? there are hundreds of engines in different languages without a translator..
More than likely

inferno22306 wrote:

will the code be in english? there are hundreds of engines in different languages without a translator..

What kind of question is this?
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NightmareGaze wrote:

inferno22306 wrote:

will the code be in english? there are hundreds of engines in different languages without a translator..

What kind of question is this?
you never know for all we know its in latin but yeah it is a bit of a dumb question = )
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SUNKYmpegCerealGod wrote:

This place is worse than Ohio

UF_toriel wrote:

leonardios_Terraria wrote:

My return! To this forum!
…this place is still, ah… weLL.
your quote tho, i thought it said ohio crew but i've read that wrong

This place is worse than Ohio ☠☠
I can confirm

sus_pants_ wrote:

SUNKYmpegCerealGod wrote:

This place is worse than Ohio

UF_toriel wrote:

leonardios_Terraria wrote:

My return! To this forum!
…this place is still, ah… weLL.
your quote tho, i thought it said ohio crew but i've read that wrong

This place is worse than Ohio ☠☠
I can confirm
I can agree
Does anyone know why papyrus's eyes are different sizes, I want to make a sprite for us!papyrus but I have no idea what size his eyes should be
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redstonetoad wrote:

Does anyone know why papyrus's eyes are different sizes, I want to make a sprite for us!papyrus but I have no idea what size his eyes should be
I think bc perspective? I might be wrong
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sus_pants_ wrote:

redstonetoad wrote:

Does anyone know why papyrus's eyes are different sizes, I want to make a sprite for us!papyrus but I have no idea what size his eyes should be
I think bc perspective? I might be wrong
no, i don't think it's perspective. i think it's his nose hole (yes that sounds weird) but then again, i could be wrong.

redstonetoad wrote:

Does anyone know why papyrus's eyes are different sizes, I want to make a sprite for us!papyrus but I have no idea what size his eyes should be


The same as the original? Unless I am missing something, please elaborate.

UT_Toriel wrote:

:< spooked

Undertalebuffer wrote:

UT_Toriel wrote:

:< spooked

UT_Toriel wrote:

When z impostor is susss
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My family is saving for a VR Headset
Everyone on the forums when there's a slight argument: !!!!!!!!!!HOW DARE YOU!!!!! WE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT LOCKED!!!!!



Everyone on the forums when they're going completely offtopic Haha, this is fine! It's not like we have been warned/told multiple times not to do so!



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Undertalebuffer wrote:

UT_Toriel wrote:

:< spooked
lol

UT_Toriel wrote:

This is actually on topic belleve it or not

UT_Toriel wrote:

foony

IAmFunk wrote:

My family is saving for a VR Headset
cool, imagine undertale VR
oh yay, this place is still hell

toe_merchant wrote:

oh yay, this place is still hell


I don't think you know what the word “hell” means.

NightmareGaze wrote:

toe_merchant wrote:

oh yay, this place is still hell


I don't think you know what the word “hell” means.
I don't think you know what “metaphors” are

mastershark0904 wrote:

NightmareGaze wrote:

toe_merchant wrote:

oh yay, this place is still hell


I don't think you know what the word “hell” means.
I don't think you know what “metaphors” are
I don't think that I want an argument