ocular rewritten

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

sonicreal3 wrote:

scratch7000000 wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

OVERSWAPSANESS wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

notTheRealMarshall wrote:

Update: The guy who used my vectors apologized and we are on good terms. Hi to the guy who said who asked on last comment I made about this

bruh why does everyone think that i said that!? i said that no one has to ask for you to say something

It's basically the same thing, we're just shortening it

yea, but they're all saying that i said “who asked”

he didn't say who asked, he just said you DONT have to ask for someone to share there thoughts, not, who asked you to share your thoughts, look at it closely, can you tell the difference?

thats literally who asked but longer

what no its not

Yes it is

RealA1 wrote:

“ you DON'T have to ask to share your thoughts ” isn't the “WHO ASKED” thing
“ you DO have to ask to share your thoughts ” is the “WHO ASKED” thing
I hope it will solve this problem

see? he's smart

JBeast39 wrote:

when lore drop?

this is an engine, not a game. so its not gonna have lore.

OVERSWAPSANESS wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

sonicreal3 wrote:

scratch7000000 wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

OVERSWAPSANESS wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

notTheRealMarshall wrote:

Update: The guy who used my vectors apologized and we are on good terms. Hi to the guy who said who asked on last comment I made about this

bruh why does everyone think that i said that!? i said that no one has to ask for you to say something

It's basically the same thing, we're just shortening it

yea, but they're all saying that i said “who asked”

he didn't say who asked, he just said you DONT have to ask for someone to share there thoughts, not, who asked you to share your thoughts, look at it closely, can you tell the difference?

thats literally who asked but longer

what no its not

Yes it is

true

This is the most inconsequential debate I have ever seen. Indeed, you don't have to be asked to say something, but all of you are missing the main meaning of “who asked”. Who asked is essentially a sarcastic/passive-aggressive way of saying “what you have just said is bad or serves little to no purpose here”. Now let's take a look at some facts.

1. This forum is about an Undertale engine.

2. We have been asked to stay on topic multiple times.

3. The comments made by notTheRealMarshall regarding their vectors are not Undertale engine related.


This means that notTheRealMarshall made a post that was not related to the topic in any shape or form. Looking at it from this point of view, saying “who asked” makes sense and is somewhat applicable here. While I do not necessarily concur with the usage of “who asked”, I will definitely be leaning toward that side.

With that being said, I am quite surprised how you all were able to blow it out of proportion.

To get back on topic what is your favorite attack from undertale

GUYS CHECK TRENDING ALL TAB BEFORE THE THING IS FIXED THEY BROKE IT MORE ALL OF THE PROJECTS HAVE LIKE 2 LOVES

Chance_1212 wrote:

To get back on topic what is your favorite attack from undertale

San's random attack thingy

OVERSWAPSANESS wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

sonicreal3 wrote:

scratch7000000 wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

OVERSWAPSANESS wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

notTheRealMarshall wrote:

Update: The guy who used my vectors apologized and we are on good terms. Hi to the guy who said who asked on last comment I made about this

bruh why does everyone think that i said that!? i said that no one has to ask for you to say something

It's basically the same thing, we're just shortening it

yea, but they're all saying that i said “who asked”

he didn't say who asked, he just said you DONT have to ask for someone to share there thoughts, not, who asked you to share your thoughts, look at it closely, can you tell the difference?

thats literally who asked but longer

what no its not

Yes it is

He said that nobody has to ask you for you to share your thoughts MEANING it doesnt matter if anyone asked you can say what you what because you have the right of free freakin speech so you can share your thoughts no matter if anyone asked you too because that is just common courtesy. Like the mods said if you have a personal debate DISCUSS SUCH MATTERS ON USER PAGES this forum is not a place to dump your bs onto.

isisnottaken wrote:

OVERSWAPSANESS wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

sonicreal3 wrote:

scratch7000000 wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

OVERSWAPSANESS wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

notTheRealMarshall wrote:

Update: The guy who used my vectors apologized and we are on good terms. Hi to the guy who said who asked on last comment I made about this

bruh why does everyone think that i said that!? i said that no one has to ask for you to say something

It's basically the same thing, we're just shortening it

yea, but they're all saying that i said “who asked”

he didn't say who asked, he just said you DONT have to ask for someone to share there thoughts, not, who asked you to share your thoughts, look at it closely, can you tell the difference?

thats literally who asked but longer

what no its not

Yes it is

He said that nobody has to ask you for you to share your thoughts MEANING it doesnt matter if anyone asked you can say what you what because you have the right of free freakin speech so you can share your thoughts no matter if anyone asked you too because that is just common courtesy.

I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna say what everyone's been thinking since this began:
Is there EVER gonna be a point in time when you guys finally decide to shut the h#ll up?

doggy_boi1 wrote:

isisnottaken wrote:

OVERSWAPSANESS wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

sonicreal3 wrote:

scratch7000000 wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

OVERSWAPSANESS wrote:

OVERSWAPPAPYRUS wrote:

notTheRealMarshall wrote:

Update: The guy who used my vectors apologized and we are on good terms. Hi to the guy who said who asked on last comment I made about this

bruh why does everyone think that i said that!? i said that no one has to ask for you to say something

It's basically the same thing, we're just shortening it

yea, but they're all saying that i said “who asked”

he didn't say who asked, he just said you DONT have to ask for someone to share there thoughts, not, who asked you to share your thoughts, look at it closely, can you tell the difference?

thats literally who asked but longer

what no its not

Yes it is

He said that nobody has to ask you for you to share your thoughts MEANING it doesnt matter if anyone asked you can say what you what because you have the right of free freakin speech so you can share your thoughts no matter if anyone asked you too because that is just common courtesy.

I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna say what everyone's been thinking since this began:
Is there EVER gonna be a point in time when you guys finally decide to shut the h#ll up?

apparently not because nobody can agree on if somebody said a long version of WHO ASKED. And also the fact that when the forum was first shut down because we were arguing when it got put back up WE CONTINUED THE SAME POINTLESS ARGUMENT.

you know what, if you guys are gonna argue can you not mass quote???? Only quote the bit you wanna respond to pls

I just reported the pointless argument we were having and asked for the forum to be shutdown because we obviously cannot handle being in a group together. its just bickering, arguing, and telling each other off about pointless things I swear every time I click on this forum it's something new just wall after wall of mass quoting.

isisnottaken wrote:

I just reported the pointless argument we were having and asked for the forum to be shutdown because we cannot handle being in a group together.

If a new person came here THEY CAN'T FIND THE FATAL ERROR POST OR ANYTHING ELSE ON TOPIC BECAUSE THE ARGUMENT IS PUSHING IT BACK.

doggy_boi1 wrote:

isisnottaken wrote:

I just reported the pointless argument we were having and asked for the forum to be shutdown because we cannot handle being in a group together.

If a new person came here THEY CAN'T FIND THE FATAL ERROR POST OR ANYTHING ELSE ON TOPIC BECAUSE THE ARGUMENT IS PUSHING IT BACK.

exactly. if nobody can argue then new people can look through and find everything they need to answer any question they might have. remember that argument that arose after I asked an ON TOPIC question?

doggy_boi1 wrote:

If a new person came here THEY CAN'T FIND THE FATAL ERROR POST OR ANYTHING ELSE ON TOPIC BECAUSE THE ARGUMENT IS PUSHING IT BACK.

That's literally happened before. 35% of the forum followers DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS POSTPONED because this “wHo AsKeD” thing was pushing back any info related to the subject. That's why I said if you're gonna argue only quote the part you're responding to, break 1 rule instead of 2 (I'd rather you break 0)

isisnottaken wrote:

I just reported the pointless argument we were having and asked for the forum to be shutdown because we obviously cannot handle being in a group together. its just bickering, arguing, and telling each other off about pointless things I swear every time I click on this forum it's something new just wall after wall of mass quoting.

The irony. The problem isn't with the forums, it's with the people who continue these pointless arguments even when asked not to. Fortunately for us, these people get banned.

NightmareGaze wrote:

isisnottaken wrote:

I just reported the pointless argument we were having and asked for the forum to be shutdown because we obviously cannot handle being in a group together. its just bickering, arguing, and telling each other off about pointless things I swear every time I click on this forum it's something new just wall after wall of mass quoting.

The irony. The problem isn't with the forums, it's with the people who continue these pointless arguments even when asked not to. Fortunately for us, these people get banned.

These people who get banned come back with new accounts and start all over again.

Fatal Error update since nobody else is talking about this
FatalError(Update+NewInfo)



PS: try to leave the whole who asked thing in the past and just report these people & posts

isisnottaken wrote:

NightmareGaze wrote:

isisnottaken wrote:

I just reported the pointless argument we were having and asked for the forum to be shutdown because we obviously cannot handle being in a group together. its just bickering, arguing, and telling each other off about pointless things I swear every time I click on this forum it's something new just wall after wall of mass quoting.

The irony. The problem isn't with the forums, it's with the people who continue these pointless arguments even when asked not to. Fortunately for us, these people get banned.

These people who get banned come back with new accounts and start all over again.

I have yet to see that happen. Any time an argument takes place, the messages get purged and you cannot continue the argument as it's gone. Once again, the problem isn't with the forums, but with the users.

Skixxs wrote:

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/771280384
Play it, Is very Fun!

Please don't…?
You can advertise in your little message box thingy, but do not advertise projects UNRELATED TO THE FORUM HERE.

Skixxs wrote:

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/771280384
Play it, Is very Fun!

Stop advertising

Skixxs wrote:

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/771280384
Play it, Is very Fun!

Ok yeah dont advertise but.. (this is actually kinda fun ngl)

NightmareGaze wrote:

This is the most inconsequential debate I have ever seen. Indeed, you don't have to be asked to say something, but all of you are missing the main meaning of “who asked”. Who asked is essentially a sarcastic/passive-aggressive way of saying “what you have just said is bad or serves little to no purpose here”. Now let's take a look at some facts.

1. This forum is about an Undertale engine.

2. We have been asked to stay on topic multiple times.

3. The comments made by notTheRealMarshall regarding their vectors are not Undertale engine related.


This means that notTheRealMarshall made a post that was not related to the topic in any shape or form. Looking at it from this point of view, saying “who asked” makes sense and is somewhat applicable here. While I do not necessarily concur with the usage of “who asked”, I will definitely be leaning toward that side.

With that being said, I am quite surprised how you all were able to blow it out of proportion.

Many other people go off topic too, And what is there to talk about an unreleased engine besides ask questions? I have never been on an actual forum where you talk before besides this one and I am still learning. What can I improve on?

Fatal Error: boy do I love making things break

SUNKYmpegCerealGod wrote:

Fatal Error: boy do I love making things break

ok pal, you can stop now.

notTheRealMarshall wrote:

Many other people go off topic too, And what is there to talk about an unreleased engine besides ask questions? I have never been on an actual forum where you talk before besides this one and I am still learning. What can I improve on?

I perfectly understand, but I'm only stating objective facts. While I really don't care about the topics, this one, for some reason became more than just “off-topic”.

You must keep in mind that the other off-topics are not about them but about other topics. In your case, some people might view it as if you are trying to get attention or something (which would honestly explain this whole situation).

I probably wont say anything like I tried to whenever the engine is gonna release, Normally I say stuff about how far we've come but I am not gonna do that because normally something happens or we are proven wrong about what's gonna happen

An update on the whole engine

Since the post got locked by accident for a full month, let me break down the status on the engine and what to expect.

The engine is being fully re-coded, the fatal error was about the new code being built on old code. Which created a lot of issues, I have no problems recording the whole thing as the previous code navigation was somewhat messy. The broadcast events were unorganized, the variables were over-used, and the list method was just too confusing.

-Exact Undertale Damage system
The previous system was based on how I thought the Undertale damage system worked, after doing deeper research, I realized most of my damage system had been coded incorrectly. So the new engine will feature very accurate formulas from Undertale.


New engine will now include:

-Multi monster system
You will now have the ability to add three monsters to the fight. Unfortunately, due to scratch limits, I cannot create the fancy dust effect for multi-monsters, this option will still be a thing only for one monster.
A new GUI method will be introduced, it's called enemy profiling. Each enemy profile can support up to three enemies (can be the same ones). To add enemies to this profile, you'll have to use the Enemy creator GUI.

Enemy Profiling will include:
Enemies (up to three), selected OST, and background.

Enemy Creator will include:
-All of the enemy base stats
-Enemies name
-Special editor (gives you more control over damage system)
-Enemy sprite selector

-Another feature that's under question


-Overworld editor (GUI)
Overworld editor will be a feature that allows you to create your very own overworld system with a special editor.
This editor will feature:
-Tile selection (all zones tiles will be included)
-Brush sizes
-Encounter points (with messages)
-Areas where enemies can occur with delay and rate
-Collision system
-Camera control
-Room node system, A to D, meaning you can have a room with 4 possible exits. The node system will be another GUI that will help you link rooms with one another.
-Background selector

-Another feature under question (with animation)


Multiplayer and CO-OP
CO-OP
You can play with someone on one keyboard, giving WASD and Arrow keys (can be reversed in settings) controls.

Multiplayer
You will have the ability to play with 3 people on cloud (all must be Scratchers rank). In settings, you can whitelist usernames that you want to play with.
I am unsure how this will work once all of you are in the overworld, but I'm already aware of how it will work during a battle.



That's about all, have fun.



New update!!! Also art by me

Nivalosha wrote:

An update on the whole engine

Since the post got locked by accident for a full month, let me break down the status on the engine and what to expect.

The engine is being fully re-coded, the fatal error was about the new code being built on old code. Which created a lot of issues, I have no problems recording the whole thing as the previous code navigation was somewhat messy. The broadcast events were unorganized, the variables were over-used, and the list method was just too confusing.

-Exact Undertale Damage system
The previous system was based on how I thought the Undertale damage system worked, after doing deeper research, I realized most of my damage system had been coded incorrectly. So the new engine will feature very accurate formulas from Undertale.


New engine will now include:

-Multi monster system
You will now have the ability to add three monsters to the fight. Unfortunately, due to scratch limits, I cannot create the fancy effect for multi-monsters, this option will still exist only for one monster.
A new GUI method will be introduced, it's called enemy profiling. Each enemy profile can support up to three enemies (can be the same ones). To add enemies to this profile, you'll have to use the Enemy creator GUI.

Enemy Profiling will include:
Enemies (up to three), selected OST, and background.

Enemy Creator will include:
-All of the enemy base stats
-Enemies name
-Special editor (gives you more control over damage system)

-Another feature that's under question


-Overworld editor (GUI)
Overworld editor will be a feature that allows you to create your very own overworld system with a special editor.
This editor will feature:
-Tile selection
-Brush sizes
-Encounter points (with messages)
-Areas where enemies can occur with delay and rate
-Collision system
-Camera control
-Room node system, A to D, meaning you can have a room with 4 possible exists. The node system will be another GUI that will help you link rooms with one another.
-Background selector



Multiplayer and CO-OP
CO-OP
You can play with someone on one keyboard, giving WASD and Arrow keys (can be reversed in settings) controls.

Multiplayer
You will have the ability to play with 3 people on cloud (all must be Scratchers rank). In settings, you can whitelist usernames that you want to play with.
I am unsure how this will work once all of you are in the overworld, but I'm already aware of how it will work during a battle.



That's about all, have fun.



New update!!! Also art by me

WHAT? THAT'S CRAZY!

Jeez, your adding so much, I'm hoping that this won't be to big for scratch hahaha…

Ether way, all of the new content sounds cool, and a patently await release

(excitement intensifies)

It's quite a delight to see this forum reopened.

hello everybody, how was y'all's winter break?

Its back

UT_Toriel wrote:

hello everybody, how was y'all's winter break?

It was great

Nivalosha wrote:

An update on the whole engine

Since the post got locked by accident for a full month, let me break down the status on the engine and what to expect.

The engine is being fully re-coded, the fatal error was about the new code being built on old code. Which created a lot of issues, I have no problems recording the whole thing as the previous code navigation was somewhat messy. The broadcast events were unorganized, the variables were over-used, and the list method was just too confusing.

-Exact Undertale Damage system
The previous system was based on how I thought the Undertale damage system worked, after doing deeper research, I realized most of my damage system had been coded incorrectly. So the new engine will feature very accurate formulas from Undertale.


New engine will now include:

-Multi monster system
You will now have the ability to add three monsters to the fight. Unfortunately, due to scratch limits, I cannot create the fancy dust effect for multi-monsters, this option will still be a thing only for one monster.
A new GUI method will be introduced, it's called enemy profiling. Each enemy profile can support up to three enemies (can be the same ones). To add enemies to this profile, you'll have to use the Enemy creator GUI.

Enemy Profiling will include:
Enemies (up to three), selected OST, and background.

Enemy Creator will include:
-All of the enemy base stats
-Enemies name
-Special editor (gives you more control over damage system)
-Enemy sprite selector

-Another feature that's under question


-Overworld editor (GUI)
Overworld editor will be a feature that allows you to create your very own overworld system with a special editor.
This editor will feature:
-Tile selection (all zones tiles will be included)
-Brush sizes
-Encounter points (with messages)
-Areas where enemies can occur with delay and rate
-Collision system
-Camera control
-Room node system, A to D, meaning you can have a room with 4 possible exits. The node system will be another GUI that will help you link rooms with one another.
-Background selector

-Another feature under question (with animation)


Multiplayer and CO-OP
CO-OP
You can play with someone on one keyboard, giving WASD and Arrow keys (can be reversed in settings) controls.

Multiplayer
You will have the ability to play with 3 people on cloud (all must be Scratchers rank). In settings, you can whitelist usernames that you want to play with.
I am unsure how this will work once all of you are in the overworld, but I'm already aware of how it will work during a battle.



That's about all, have fun.



New update!!! Also art by me

that sounds great

when green flag clicked
forever
broadcast [ support]
end

(hope I got that right.)

Nivalosha wrote:

An update on the whole engine

Since the post got locked by accident for a full month, let me break down the status on the engine and what to expect.

The engine is being fully re-coded, the fatal error was about the new code being built on old code. Which created a lot of issues, I have no problems recording the whole thing as the previous code navigation was somewhat messy. The broadcast events were unorganized, the variables were over-used, and the list method was just too confusing.

-Exact Undertale Damage system
The previous system was based on how I thought the Undertale damage system worked, after doing deeper research, I realized most of my damage system had been coded incorrectly. So the new engine will feature very accurate formulas from Undertale.


New engine will now include:

-Multi monster system
You will now have the ability to add three monsters to the fight. Unfortunately, due to scratch limits, I cannot create the fancy dust effect for multi-monsters, this option will still be a thing only for one monster.
A new GUI method will be introduced, it's called enemy profiling. Each enemy profile can support up to three enemies (can be the same ones). To add enemies to this profile, you'll have to use the Enemy creator GUI.

Enemy Profiling will include:
Enemies (up to three), selected OST, and background.

Enemy Creator will include:
-All of the enemy base stats
-Enemies name
-Special editor (gives you more control over damage system)
-Enemy sprite selector

-Another feature that's under question


-Overworld editor (GUI)
Overworld editor will be a feature that allows you to create your very own overworld system with a special editor.
This editor will feature:
-Tile selection (all zones tiles will be included)
-Brush sizes
-Encounter points (with messages)
-Areas where enemies can occur with delay and rate
-Collision system
-Camera control
-Room node system, A to D, meaning you can have a room with 4 possible exits. The node system will be another GUI that will help you link rooms with one another.
-Background selector

-Another feature under question (with animation)


Multiplayer and CO-OP
CO-OP
You can play with someone on one keyboard, giving WASD and Arrow keys (can be reversed in settings) controls.

Multiplayer
You will have the ability to play with 3 people on cloud (all must be Scratchers rank). In settings, you can whitelist usernames that you want to play with.
I am unsure how this will work once all of you are in the overworld, but I'm already aware of how it will work during a battle.



That's about all, have fun.



New update!!! Also art by me

OMG YOU ACTUALLY DID IT, I THOUGHT YOU SAID NO MUTIPLAYER AND MONSTER! THIS IS AMAZING!!!

Nivalosha wrote:

An update on the whole engine

Since the post got locked by accident for a full month, let me break down the status on the engine and what to expect.

The engine is being fully re-coded, the fatal error was about the new code being built on old code. Which created a lot of issues, I have no problems recording the whole thing as the previous code navigation was somewhat messy. The broadcast events were unorganized, the variables were over-used, and the list method was just too confusing.

-Exact Undertale Damage system
The previous system was based on how I thought the Undertale damage system worked, after doing deeper research, I realized most of my damage system had been coded incorrectly. So the new engine will feature very accurate formulas from Undertale.


New engine will now include:

-Multi monster system
You will now have the ability to add three monsters to the fight. Unfortunately, due to scratch limits, I cannot create the fancy dust effect for multi-monsters, this option will still be a thing only for one monster.
A new GUI method will be introduced, it's called enemy profiling. Each enemy profile can support up to three enemies (can be the same ones). To add enemies to this profile, you'll have to use the Enemy creator GUI.

Enemy Profiling will include:
Enemies (up to three), selected OST, and background.

Enemy Creator will include:
-All of the enemy base stats
-Enemies name
-Special editor (gives you more control over damage system)
-Enemy sprite selector

-Another feature that's under question


-Overworld editor (GUI)
Overworld editor will be a feature that allows you to create your very own overworld system with a special editor.
This editor will feature:
-Tile selection (all zones tiles will be included)
-Brush sizes
-Encounter points (with messages)
-Areas where enemies can occur with delay and rate
-Collision system
-Camera control
-Room node system, A to D, meaning you can have a room with 4 possible exits. The node system will be another GUI that will help you link rooms with one another.
-Background selector

-Another feature under question (with animation)


Multiplayer and CO-OP
CO-OP
You can play with someone on one keyboard, giving WASD and Arrow keys (can be reversed in settings) controls.

Multiplayer
You will have the ability to play with 3 people on cloud (all must be Scratchers rank). In settings, you can whitelist usernames that you want to play with.
I am unsure how this will work once all of you are in the overworld, but I'm already aware of how it will work during a battle.



That's about all, have fun.



New update!!! Also art by me

yoooo, this is gonna be sick!

nice it is back up

Multiplayer? CLOUD MUlTIPLAYER? YOOOOOOOO

poignantcreator wrote:

Multiplayer? CLOUD MUlTIPLAYER? YOOOOOOOO

He said he wouldn't make even normal multiplayer

yess this is back!

cs3095369 wrote:

yess this is back!

ye

Undertalebuffer wrote:

poignantcreator wrote:

Multiplayer? CLOUD MUlTIPLAYER? YOOOOOOOO

He said he wouldn't make even normal multiplayer

Indeed, however, the new update claims that it will be a thing.

What exactly is wrong with the engine?

NightmareGaze wrote:

Undertalebuffer wrote:

poignantcreator wrote:

Multiplayer? CLOUD MUlTIPLAYER? YOOOOOOOO

He said he wouldn't make even normal multiplayer

Indeed, however, the new update claims that it will be a thing.

Ya

Xcvfdd wrote:

What exactly is wrong with the engine?

I don't think that the creator is going to recite every single issue with the engine.

Xcvfdd wrote:

What exactly is wrong with the engine?

As far as I know, he has been coding this for a long time so much of the code is very old, broken, and limiting. Instead of creating another version of another popular engine, he is making a new one from scratch. The engine will know release with new features now that all of the old and broken code is replaced with new stuff. The fatal error is basically everything