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BlauHourglass wrote:

Malicondi wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

I'm actually fine with either since either can be woven in with the rest of the story.

we should wait on 5_g to tell us which we should make though.

That's what I was thinking, actually. I completely agree.

Yeah, I think that's the best idea.

prishaJuni wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

Malicondi wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

I'm actually fine with either since either can be woven in with the rest of the story.

we should wait on 5_g to tell us which we should make though.

That's what I was thinking, actually. I completely agree.

Yeah, I think that's the best idea.

I think that we should focus less on the time periods thing and more on the theme of the realms themselves, the desert can be like a steampunk industrial place and the ocean can futuristic for asthetic purposes to set it apart from the other realms, and the forest can be medieval.

We dont have to focus on the time period at all to do with the realm, but it could add some cool mechanics where if you change one thing in the forest (past) it effects the ocean (future)

5_g wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

Malicondi wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

I'm actually fine with either since either can be woven in with the rest of the story.

we should wait on 5_g to tell us which we should make though.

That's what I was thinking, actually. I completely agree.

Yeah, I think that's the best idea.

I think that we should focus less on the time periods thing and more on the theme of the realms themselves, the desert can be like a steampunk industrial place and the ocean can futuristic for asthetic purposes to set it apart from the other realms, and the forest can be medieval.

I like that idea.

SquashDog wrote:

We dont have to focus on the time period at all to do with the realm, but it could add some cool mechanics where if you change one thing in the forest (past) it effects the ocean (future)

OH YEAH! So the player has to complete one realm to unlock the other!

prishaJuni wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

We dont have to focus on the time period at all to do with the realm, but it could add some cool mechanics where if you change one thing in the forest (past) it effects the ocean (future)

OH YEAH! So the player has to complete one realm to unlock the other!

Game developing time! They can start in the forest, (past) and work their way to the desert (present-ish) and then go to the ocean (future). After they unlock all three, they can freely move throughout them. They can also go back to any of the unlocked ones if they are trying to get to the next one.
EXAMPLE:
The player is currently in the desert, and trying to unlock the ocean. They go back to the forest to get some sort of clue that will help unlock the ocean. After they unlock the ocean, they go back to some key place in the desert and figure out how to get to the fourth realm. Note: that doesn't have to be what happens, just an example. It also shouldn't take too long, since the game mainly focuses on the fourth realm. There should be some auto-saving, too, because it seems this game will take a while.

Kittygirl4ever wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

We dont have to focus on the time period at all to do with the realm, but it could add some cool mechanics where if you change one thing in the forest (past) it effects the ocean (future)

OH YEAH! So the player has to complete one realm to unlock the other!

Game developing time! They can start in the forest, (past) and work their way to the desert (present-ish) and then go to the ocean (future). After they unlock all three, they can freely move throughout them. They can also go back to any of the unlocked ones if they are trying to get to the next one.
EXAMPLE:
The player is currently in the desert, and trying to unlock the ocean. They go back to the forest to get some sort of clue that will help unlock the ocean. After they unlock the ocean, they go back to some key place in the desert and figure out how to get to the fourth realm. Note: that doesn't have to be what happens, just an example. It also shouldn't take too long, since the game mainly focuses on the fourth realm. There should be some auto-saving, too, because it seems this game will take a while.

I LOVE THIS IDEA!

Kittygirl4ever wrote:

There should be some auto-saving, too, because it seems this game will take a while.

unfortunately, due to the limits of cloud variables, this isn't really possible, but we can still add a save system
(yes autosaving can be added, but for only like 20 - 30 players at most depending on how many variables would need to be saved)
And also, i think their actions in the forest should affect the desert, and actions in the desert and forest affect the ocean, that's not really a necessary addition, but it would be cool!

prishaJuni wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

We dont have to focus on the time period at all to do with the realm, but it could add some cool mechanics where if you change one thing in the forest (past) it effects the ocean (future)

OH YEAH! So the player has to complete one realm to unlock the other!

YEAH!

SquashDog wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

We dont have to focus on the time period at all to do with the realm, but it could add some cool mechanics where if you change one thing in the forest (past) it effects the ocean (future)

OH YEAH! So the player has to complete one realm to unlock the other!

YEAH!

With this feature, we could add endless replay value.

Quantum1993 wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

We dont have to focus on the time period at all to do with the realm, but it could add some cool mechanics where if you change one thing in the forest (past) it effects the ocean (future)

OH YEAH! So the player has to complete one realm to unlock the other!

YEAH!

With this feature, we could add endless replay value.

would we hard code this in, or should i use some lists algorithms to calculate what should happen based off of each action (apart from the story line) should do?

Malicondi wrote:

Quantum1993 wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

We dont have to focus on the time period at all to do with the realm, but it could add some cool mechanics where if you change one thing in the forest (past) it effects the ocean (future)

OH YEAH! So the player has to complete one realm to unlock the other!

YEAH!

With this feature, we could add endless replay value.

would we hard code this in, or should i use some lists algorithms to calculate what should happen based off of each action (apart from the story line) should do?

wdym we wont need a algorithm just to track story progress

Malicondi wrote:

Quantum1993 wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

We dont have to focus on the time period at all to do with the realm, but it could add some cool mechanics where if you change one thing in the forest (past) it effects the ocean (future)

OH YEAH! So the player has to complete one realm to unlock the other!

YEAH!

With this feature, we could add endless replay value.

would we hard code this in, or should i use some lists algorithms to calculate what should happen based off of each action (apart from the story line) should do?

if you need help i could do it so easy

Do you guys want a coding thread so as not to clog up the main or story writing…?

SquashDog wrote:

Malicondi wrote:

Quantum1993 wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

SquashDog wrote:

We dont have to focus on the time period at all to do with the realm, but it could add some cool mechanics where if you change one thing in the forest (past) it effects the ocean (future)

OH YEAH! So the player has to complete one realm to unlock the other!

YEAH!

With this feature, we could add endless replay value.

would we hard code this in, or should i use some lists algorithms to calculate what should happen based off of each action (apart from the story line) should do?

if you need help i could do it so easy

I'm not a coder for this game, but a list seems logical.

when I receive [an action by the player v]
add [outcome] to [list of outcomes v]

when I receive [enter forest realm v]
if <[list of outcomes v] contains [a certain result] ?> then
broadcast [change something in the forest realm v]
add [forest realm change 1] to [list of outcomes v]
end

BlauHourglass wrote:

Do you guys want a coding thread so as not to clog up the main or story writing…?

Sounds like a good idea!

prishaJuni wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

Do you guys want a coding thread so as not to clog up the main or story writing…?

Sounds like a good idea!

Okay. Gimme a sec…

Malicondi wrote:

Kittygirl4ever wrote:

There should be some auto-saving, too, because it seems this game will take a while.

unfortunately, due to the limits of cloud variables, this isn't really possible, but we can still add a save system
(yes autosaving can be added, but for only like 20 - 30 players at most depending on how many variables would need to be saved)
And also, i think their actions in the forest should affect the desert, and actions in the desert and forest affect the ocean, that's not really a necessary addition, but it would be cool!

Well, as long as there’s a saving feature, I guess.

Ignore.

Kittygirl4ever wrote:

Malicondi wrote:

Kittygirl4ever wrote:

There should be some auto-saving, too, because it seems this game will take a while.

unfortunately, due to the limits of cloud variables, this isn't really possible, but we can still add a save system
(yes autosaving can be added, but for only like 20 - 30 players at most depending on how many variables would need to be saved)
And also, i think their actions in the forest should affect the desert, and actions in the desert and forest affect the ocean, that's not really a necessary addition, but it would be cool!

Well, as long as there’s a saving feature, I guess.

I did find something that might help with autosaving, but it isn't reliable yet.
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/967285069/

BlauHourglass wrote:

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/741867/

There is no need for another topic, just use the main one for everything except writing, the only reason writing got their own topic is because writing discussion uses a lot of posts

5_g wrote:

There is no need for another topic, just use the main one for everything except writing, the only reason writing got their own topic is because writing discussion uses a lot of posts

Understood; I already closed the other one.

Hello guys! Please make a list of all the art needed when you're ready!

prishaJuni wrote:

Hello guys! Please make a list of all the art needed when you're ready!

I'm guessing we'll need a main character, king ‘Jonathan,’ and the twin. Maybe some features for each realm? (like lava rocks for the fire realm, coral for the water, and trees for the jungle.)

Kittygirl4ever wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

Hello guys! Please make a list of all the art needed when you're ready!

I'm guessing we'll need a main character, king ‘Jonathan,’ and the twin. Maybe some features for each realm? (like lava rocks for the fire realm, coral for the water, and trees for the jungle.)

The main character needs a name and a (customizable?) appearance. I'm thinking about this character being a boy, if that's fine with everyone. Maybe we could make the gender customizable.

^ this is what i asked earlier, still waiting on agreement

prishaJuni wrote:

Kittygirl4ever wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

Hello guys! Please make a list of all the art needed when you're ready!

I'm guessing we'll need a main character, king ‘Jonathan,’ and the twin. Maybe some features for each realm? (like lava rocks for the fire realm, coral for the water, and trees for the jungle.)

The main character needs a name and a (customizable?) appearance. I'm thinking about this character being a boy, if that's fine with everyone. Maybe we could make the gender customizable.

I support the mc being a boy to make things easier. Do you guys want the character customization/selection screen pixelized or just regular?

BlauHourglass wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

Kittygirl4ever wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

Hello guys! Please make a list of all the art needed when you're ready!

I'm guessing we'll need a main character, king ‘Jonathan,’ and the twin. Maybe some features for each realm? (like lava rocks for the fire realm, coral for the water, and trees for the jungle.)

The main character needs a name and a (customizable?) appearance. I'm thinking about this character being a boy, if that's fine with everyone. Maybe we could make the gender customizable.

I support the mc being a boy to make things easier. Do you guys want the character customization/selection screen pixelized or just regular?

If there is a customisable appearencem then there should probably be a customisably gender. Also, I think that the style is pixels, so pixels.

Kittygirl4ever wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

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I support the mc being a boy to make things easier. Do you guys want the character customization/selection screen pixelized or just regular?

If there is a customisable appearencem then there should probably be a customisably gender. Also, I think that the style is pixels, so pixels.

Okay.

BlauHourglass wrote:

Kittygirl4ever wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

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I support the mc being a boy to make things easier. Do you guys want the character customization/selection screen pixelized or just regular?

If there is a customisable appearencem then there should probably be a customisably gender. Also, I think that the style is pixels, so pixels.

Okay.

*most of the style is pixels, some artists dont use pixel art

Okay! We have a LOT to do!
Here's what we have so far:

- Three realms (fourth is hidden until all three are completed)
- King _______ (NAMES PLEASE) has become corrupt by the power of the Tablet of Truth, and now people fear his merciless rule
- Player (Name?) must find missing sister and with her help overthrow King _______(WE NEED NAMES!)
- After fighting the three generals of the three realms, Player finds out that she is imprisoned in the fourth realm's prison
- Player tries to free her without alerting King _______ and fails, boss battle

Realms:
- Burning Badlands (Industrial present theme?)
- Mammoth Grove (Ancient magic-y forest theme)
- Deepsea Dominion (Super high-tech futuristic aesthetics)
- Obscuria (Mysterious darkness)

Art Needed:
- A base (for both genders) - I think the same artist should draw the twin
- Hairstyles (Maybe?)
- Different color eyes, skin, and hair
- Scenes for each realm (We need to do more on this area)
- Generals (Bosses) How do they look?
- King _______ How does he look?
- Twin sister

Name Ideas:

King Jonathan
- King Jairn
- King Phobus
- King Mirrikh

Player Name (has to be gender neutral)
- Alex
- Ash
- Trix
- _________ help me out here

Twin's Name
- Adira
- Vivienne
-

General Names

i'm bad at names i just take ideas i'm given and draw/code them lol

prishaJuni wrote:

Name Ideas:

King Jonathan
- King Jairn
- King Phobus
- King Mirrikh

Player Name (has to be gender neutral)
- Alex
- Ash
- Trix
- _________ help me out here

Twin's Name
- Adira
- Vivienne
-

General Names

I think for the player's name, that should be custom.

BlauHourglass wrote:

I think for the player's name, that should be custom.

yeah, i think that's a good idea.

A lot of people seem to want a different name for the king.

Since I came up with that idea, here are some names:

King Agham
King Angon
King Winfred
King Elton
King Grant

BlauHourglass wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

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GENER NEUTRAL NAMES?? I GOTCHU!!!
~Luca
~Alex
~Kellen/Kellyn
~Logan
~Jade
~Charlie
~Wren (I like best)
~Robbie/Robin
~Holy
~Remy/Remi
~Billie/Billy
~Nelly/Nellie
I also like King Angon. .For the twin, here are some names
~Beth
~Ryli
~Mirelle
~Jaden
~Mila
~Josephine
~Gina
~Brooke (I like best)
~Leila
~Phoebe

Malicondi wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

I think for the player's name, that should be custom.

yeah, i think that's a good idea.

I agree!

Piggygirl3838 wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

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GENER NEUTRAL NAMES?? I GOTCHU!!!
~Luca
~Alex
~Kellen/Kellyn
~Logan
~Jade
~Charlie
~Wren (I like best)
~Robbie/Robin
~Holy
~Remy/Remi
~Billie/Billy
~Nelly/Nellie
I also like King Angon. .For the twin, here are some names
~Beth
~Ryli
~Mirelle
~Jaden
~Mila
~Josephine
~Gina
~Brooke (I like best)
~Leila
~Phoebe

Let's do a vote for the twin names!
I vote Mirelle.

Piggygirl3838 wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

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-snip-

I also like King Angon.

It's an easter egg.

The main villain of The Legend of Zelda series is Ganon, so I mixed it up, and got Angon

prishaJuni wrote:

Piggygirl3838 wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

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GENER NEUTRAL NAMES?? I GOTCHU!!!
~Luca
~Alex
~Kellen/Kellyn
~Logan
~Jade
~Charlie
~Wren (I like best)
~Robbie/Robin
~Holy
~Remy/Remi
~Billie/Billy
~Nelly/Nellie
I also like King Angon. .For the twin, here are some names
~Beth
~Ryli
~Mirelle
~Jaden
~Mila
~Josephine
~Gina
~Brooke (I like best)
~Leila
~Phoebe

Let's do a vote for the twin names!
I vote Mirelle.

I also like Mirelle… or Leila. Something full of ‘l’s, haha.

BlauHourglass wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

Piggygirl3838 wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

-snip-

-snip-

-snip-
For the twin, here are some names
~Beth
~Ryli
~Mirelle
~Jaden
~Mila
~Josephine
~Gina
~Brooke (I like best)
~Leila
~Phoebe

Let's do a vote for the twin names!
I vote Mirelle.

I also like Mirelle… or Leila. Something full of ‘l’s, haha.

I like Mirelle or Brooke. Seems like Mirelle is winning

Mirelle is just.. simple, pretty, and elegant. And also kinda fits the “fantasy”. It's not generic either…

Guys, we NEED to get into the specifics now. Which realm do we start with?

BlauHourglass wrote:

Mirelle is just.. simple, pretty, and elegant. And also kinda fits the “fantasy”. It's not generic either…

Ok! The name is officially Mirelle.

prishaJuni wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

Mirelle is just.. simple, pretty, and elegant. And also kinda fits the “fantasy”. It's not generic either…

Ok! The name is officially Mirelle.

But maybe… since the mc's name is customizable, maybe it could be the twin's name.

prishaJuni wrote:

prishaJuni wrote:

BlauHourglass wrote:

Mirelle is just.. simple, pretty, and elegant. And also kinda fits the “fantasy”. It's not generic either…

Ok! The name is officially Mirelle.

But maybe… since the mc's name is customizable, maybe it could be the twin's name.

Oh, I thought that it was for the twin.

prishaJuni wrote:

Guys, we NEED to get into the specifics now. Which realm do we start with?

I suggest we start with the first realm: the normal/earth/foresty realm.

I'm starting a vote for the king's name.
I vote for Angon.

currently, I'm coding a pathfinding algorithm that we can use for the game, for enemies.
sidenote: i like Mirelle and Angon as names

Angon