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Here's what I'm thinking: an ‘other’ category to report profiles for, where there will be more reasons to report profiles. Here is what I'm thinking:

• This user is mean (fake)
  
• I don't like this user (fake)
  
• Inappropriate featured project (for if it's unshared)
  
• Inappropriate What I've been doing (more on that)
  
• Impersonation (prompts asking who is being impersonated)
  
• Other (user can type response)
  

The fake reasons are like the “I don't like this project” option on projects. If they click it, it'll tell them what to do instead of reporting them. Inappropriate featured project because the project might be unshared so it can't be reported. The reason for what I've been doing is because people can do things like love unshared projects with inappropriate names, so it shows up there. So that's my idea.

‘This user is mean’ and ‘I don’t like this user'

1. You can actually report their comments instead of just putting “This user is mean.” Reporting needs evidence or it will be considered false reporting.
2. Same as 1 because how will you dislike a user who is always kind to you?

‘Inappropriate what I’ve been doing.'

1. How can WIBDs be inappropriate? If you see a user loving a bad project or following an account built for improper purposes, report the project or the other user.
2. A report needs an average of 2-3 days to be reviewed and solved. After 2 or 3 days, the marks of wrongdoings would have gone.

-iviedwall- wrote:

‘This user is mean’ and ‘I don’t like this user'

1. You can actually report their comments instead of just putting “This user is mean.” Reporting needs evidence or it will be considered false reporting.
2. Same as 1 because how will you dislike a user who is always kind to you?

--Optimum-- wrote:

In it there will be the fake reasons, similar to ‘I don’t like this project' for project reports. They could be like ‘This user is mean’ and ‘I don’t like this user'.

-iviedwall- wrote:

‘Inappropriate what I’ve been doing.'

1. How can WIBDs be inappropriate? If you see a user loving a bad project or following an account built for improper purposes, report the project or the other user.

--Optimum-- wrote:

The reason for what I've been working on is because people can do things like love unshared projects with inappropriate names, so it shows up there.

-iviedwall- wrote:

2. A report needs an average of 2-3 days to be reviewed and solved. After 2 or 3 days, the marks of wrongdoings would have gone.

1. It usually only takes a couple of hours for a report to get reviewed. 2. Scratch team doesn't remove that stuff from WIBDs.

Okay, but then what’s the point of sending a “fake” report? Won’t that just clog up the ST’s reports?

musicROCKS013 wrote:

Okay, but then what’s the point of sending a “fake” report? Won’t that just clog up the ST’s reports?

I'm talking about the ‘I don’t like this project' report option, where it just takes you to a page telling you why you shouldn't report stuff for that. It doesn't actually send anything.

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Mockups:

--Optimum-- wrote:

“I don't like this user”?
There are plenty of users I don't like, but I don't think I could report them for that.

DinoMaster20 wrote:

“I don't like this user”?
There are plenty of users I don't like, but I don't think I could report them for that.

--Optimum-- wrote:

n it there will be the fake reasons, similar to ‘I don’t like this project' for project reports. They could be like ‘This user is mean’ and ‘I don’t like this user'.

--Optimum-- wrote:

musicROCKS013 wrote:

Okay, but then what’s the point of sending a “fake” report? Won’t that just clog up the ST’s reports?

I'm talking about the ‘I don’t like this project' report option, where it just takes you to a page telling you why you shouldn't report stuff for that. It doesn't actually send anything.

Ok, yeah sure they can add more categories. But, why don't you just file the miscellaneous reports under “other”

Okay I made the OP easier to read so hopefully people actually read it now.

-iviedwall- wrote:

‘This user is mean’ and ‘I don’t like this user'

1. You can actually report their comments instead of just putting “This user is mean.” Reporting needs evidence or it will be considered false reporting.
2. Same as 1 because how will you dislike a user who is always kind to you?

‘Inappropriate what I’ve been doing.'

1. How can WIBDs be inappropriate? If you see a user loving a bad project or following an account built for improper purposes, report the project or the other user.
2. A report needs an average of 2-3 days to be reviewed and solved. After 2 or 3 days, the marks of wrongdoings would have gone.

1. Yep.
2. Also yep.
3. To be fair, they can share an inappropriate project and love/fave it, and make more than 1.

--Optimum-- wrote:

Other (user can type response)

For reporting profiles, I think it would be best if there were no “other” option. Otherwise I would expect to see lots of Scratchers reporting a user because they're “mean,” when they really should be reporting the comments instead. While you state that “this Scratcher is mean” is already listed as a fake report option, that would not stop any rotten apples from using the “other” option to report them anyway.

I do like all the rest of the options you give. Are there any other reasons why someone would want to report a profile? It might be better to just add those other reasons as separate reporting options, rather than adding a generic “other” option that Scratchers could misuse.

Za-Chary wrote:

--Optimum-- wrote:

Other (user can type response)

For reporting profiles, I think it would be best if there were no “other” option. Otherwise I would expect to see lots of Scratchers reporting a user because they're “mean,” when they really should be reporting the comments instead. While you state that “this Scratcher is mean” is already listed as a fake report option, that would not stop any rotten apples from using the “other” option to report them anyway.

I do like all the rest of the options you give. Are there any other reasons why someone would want to report a profile? It might be better to just add those other reasons as separate reporting options, rather than adding a generic “other” option that Scratchers could misuse.

Good point, I wasn't really thinking of that when putting the other in there.

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One good one to add may be ban evasion, where it would prompt for the banned account.

jvvg wrote:

One good one to add may be ban evasion, where it would prompt for the banned account.

Good idea. I’ll probably make an updated list if I get another suggestion.

--Optimum-- wrote:

In it there will be the fake reasons, similar to ‘I don’t like this project' for project reports. They could be like ‘This user is mean’ and ‘I don’t like this user'.

For ‘This user is mean’ well, report their mean comments. Even if you need to add this option to profile reports, it's not a fake reason because being so mean that most people would feel bad after reading the comment is considered disrespectful, and is a form of cyberbullying.
For ‘I don’t like this user' why is disliking a user becoming a way to report people? And why should you report people you dislike? Like, I guess only 8-year-olds and below would click the option saying ‘I don’t like this user'

--Optimum-- wrote:

The reason for what I've been working on is because people can do things like love unshared projects with inappropriate names, so it shows up there.

1. Yeah, it is unshared. It isn't even public. 2. St can view unshared projects, according to the ToU.

--Optimum-- wrote:

1. It usually only takes a couple of hours for a report to get reviewed.

It also takes a couple of hours to get it buried under other activities, especially if the user is very active and checks projects a lot.

--Optimum-- wrote:

2. Scratch team doesn't remove that stuff from WIBDs.

That makes the option completely nonsense. Why would you try to report a user when their ‘inappropriate activity’ doesn't get removed, or it will be covered soon that when it comes to reviewing, the ST can't even see the inappropriate item?

-iviedwall- wrote:

--Optimum-- wrote:

In it there will be the fake reasons, similar to ‘I don’t like this project' for project reports. They could be like ‘This user is mean’ and ‘I don’t like this user'.

For ‘This user is mean’ well, report their mean comments. Even if you need to add this option to profile reports, it's not a fake reason because being so mean that most people would feel bad after reading the comment is considered disrespectful, and is a form of cyberbullying.
For ‘I don’t like this user' why is disliking a user becoming a way to report people? And why should you report people you dislike? Like, I guess only 8-year-olds and below would click the option saying ‘I don’t like this user'

--Optimum-- wrote:

The fake reasons are like the “I don't like this project” option on projects. If they click it, it'll tell them what to do instead of reporting them.

-iviedwall- wrote:

--Optimum-- wrote:

The reason for what I've been working on is because people can do things like love unshared projects with inappropriate names, so it shows up there.

1. Yeah, it is unshared. It isn't even public. 2. St can view unshared projects, according to the ToU.

People can still see featured projects if they're unshared, they just can't report it.

-iviedwall- wrote:

--Optimum-- wrote:

1. It usually only takes a couple of hours for a report to get reviewed.

It also takes a couple of hours to get it buried under other activities, especially if the user is very active and checks projects a lot.

For most active scratchers I see, it takes weeks to fully bury each action in WIBD. If it gets buried before the report gets reviewed, then it probably didn't do that much damage.

-iviedwall- wrote:

--Optimum-- wrote:

2. Scratch team doesn't remove that stuff from WIBDs.

That makes the option completely nonsense. Why would you try to report a user when their ‘inappropriate activity’ doesn't get removed, or it will be covered soon that when it comes to reviewing, the ST can't even see the inappropriate item?

What I mean is that ST doesn't remove stuff unless it's reported. If they can't already remove things from WIBDs, then this would add it.

Support, but the “Inappropriate featured project” reports can be done using Contact Us
queen of the page B)

Maltipompuppylover1 wrote:

Support, but the “Inappropriate featured project” reports can be done using Contact Us
queen of the page B)

To be fair, all reports can be done with contact us.

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Could you do a mockup in 2.0? I'm not sure how “Other” would look there (maybe a bubble and text entry next to it?)

wangat wrote:

Could you do a mockup in 2.0? I'm not sure how “Other” would look there (maybe a bubble and text entry next to it?)

The modal could have two steps. Alternatively, a text input could appear when selecting “other”. Another option is that the text box would be always there and starting to type would automatically select “other”.

I don't think discussing the exact design is very helpful though. That's something Scratch's designers will do after they decide to implement a feature.

reporting with reasons (and hitting other and describing a reason manually) would mean that it's easier to understand why a user reported something, the current system makes it hard to report a profile unless the problem is obvious

Banana

banana439monkey wrote:

reporting with reasons (and hitting other and describing a reason manually) would mean that it's easier to understand why a user reported something, the current system makes it hard to report a profile unless the problem is obvious

Banana

It already is obvious. If you report someone for an inappropriate profile picture, the Scratch Team will know exactly where to look.

SavetheAtlantic wrote:

banana439monkey wrote:

reporting with reasons (and hitting other and describing a reason manually) would mean that it's easier to understand why a user reported something, the current system makes it hard to report a profile unless the problem is obvious

Banana

It already is obvious. If you report someone for an inappropriate profile picture, the Scratch Team will know exactly where to look.

It might not be obvious why the profile picture is inappropriate though.

SavetheAtlantic wrote:

banana439monkey wrote:

reporting with reasons (and hitting other and describing a reason manually) would mean that it's easier to understand why a user reported something, the current system makes it hard to report a profile unless the problem is obvious

Banana

It already is obvious. If you report someone for an inappropriate profile picture, the Scratch Team will know exactly where to look.

no not really, maximouse is correct, and the reason above is why i wrote the post

Banana

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banana439monkey wrote:

SavetheAtlantic wrote:

banana439monkey wrote:

reporting with reasons (and hitting other and describing a reason manually) would mean that it's easier to understand why a user reported something, the current system makes it hard to report a profile unless the problem is obvious

Banana

It already is obvious. If you report someone for an inappropriate profile picture, the Scratch Team will know exactly where to look.

no not really, maximouse is correct, and the reason above is why i wrote the post

Banana

Fair point, but I don't think only having an “Other” option would really solve this. Perhaps instead if you could add reasoning to any of the default reasons like you can with projects would be better.

As of now you can only report aspects of the profile and need to use Contact Us to report bad activity. {{REMOVED_BEFORE_POST|#antisupportconvention}}

QuantumScratcher wrote:

As of now you can only report aspects of the profile and need to use Contact Us to report bad activity. {{REMOVED_BEFORE_POST|#antisupportconvention}}

yes and hence that feature is being suggested

Banana

SavetheAtlantic wrote:

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banana439monkey wrote:

SavetheAtlantic wrote:

banana439monkey wrote:

reporting with reasons (and hitting other and describing a reason manually) would mean that it's easier to understand why a user reported something, the current system makes it hard to report a profile unless the problem is obvious

Banana

It already is obvious. If you report someone for an inappropriate profile picture, the Scratch Team will know exactly where to look.

no not really, maximouse is correct, and the reason above is why i wrote the post

Banana

Fair point, but I don't think only having an “Other” option would really solve this. Perhaps instead if you could add reasoning to any of the default reasons like you can with projects would be better.

It would kind of solve it, but there are better solutions.

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Maltipompuppylover1 wrote:

Support, but the “Inappropriate featured project” reports can be done using Contact Us
queen of the page B)

Whenever I use contact us for reports, it just sends an automated message and nothing else happens.

One more good option could be an inappropriate projects tab, favorite projects tab, studio tab, following tab, etc. That may sound silly, but I know there are quite a bit of bad words spelled out in such tabs.

I believe they should add an option for you to write out what is wrong with the user's profile.

For example, if it is about a user's projects we should list out the ones on the profile that need to be removed.

And controversial figures who are exposed of crimes (pedophilia, murder, etc) would need to be banned off the platform, in which users will provide proof of the crime and the outcome (arrest and news reports)

Considering that Scratch is mostly used by kids, I feel like it would help clean out the bad ones.

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cookieclickerer33 wrote:

This is already in the 3.0 formatted pages, so when user profiles get updated to 3.0 this would be added. So technically it’s already being worked on

Well lets hope the update actually adds it…

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

This is already in the 3.0 formatted pages, so when user profiles get updated to 3.0 this would be added. So technically it’s already being worked on

This may need its own topic, but studios are a 3.0 format now and they actually had this feature removed when it happened for some reason, so it may not happen without us pushing it to.
I distinctly remember using a text input box to report an Anti Scratch studio pre-studio update.

dupe

Miraheze wrote:

nde100 wrote:

MegaEdgar wrote:

This is an amazing idea! They should definitely add this

Why

So criminals don't use the site…

And scratch does illegal things and someone becomes a criminal?

portalpower wrote:

dupe

I think this is type it out and that is more options

Miraheze wrote:

Bumping once again, as the forums are usually inactive

you only post suggestions and bump, you barely respond to anything on your own topic and you don)t go on other topics.if you don’t look at the forums you won’t see activity.

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

portalpower wrote:

dupe

I think this is type it out and that is more options

Probably need to merge the two topics, that will actually seem better

cs3868895 wrote:

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

portalpower wrote:

dupe

I think this is type it out and that is more options

Probably need to merge the two topics, that will actually seem better

But they’re not the same

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

cs3868895 wrote:

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

portalpower wrote:

dupe

I think this is type it out and that is more options

Probably need to merge the two topics, that will actually seem better

But they’re not the same

That may have more suggestions, I just feel like the discussion needs to be carried in one place, since everyone is talking in here, why do we just merge it.

cs3868895 wrote:

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

cs3868895 wrote:

Prince_Wolf1 wrote:

portalpower wrote:

dupe

I think this is type it out and that is more options

Probably need to merge the two topics, that will actually seem better

But they’re not the same

That may have more suggestions, I just feel like the discussion needs to be carried in one place, since everyone is talking in here, why do we just merge it.

It makes the topic confusing to read, but even if people are only talking here it’s not the same thing