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This is different from my Only Icons Blocks Suggestion!

Horizontal Blocks look better in my opinion bit there are none of them. So how is this on the Scratch Wiki?





There can be button to switch to them and we can use them. I know all the blocks since I became a Scratcher and I know it will be difficult for New Scratchers. So we can have the Vertical as default and we can switch to horizontal blocks.

Pls Don't Mention ScratchJr as you have told me about it. ScratchJr is different and Scratch is different. ScratchJr is a app and they some people not want to download it (like me). So pls don't mention ScratchJr, mention something different which is not in the Scratch Family. Also a WebSite

Edit : Added Also a WebSite to last paragraph (12:40 PM IST)

Good Idea this can look nice but if you want to use horizontal blocks you can try ScratchJr.

Support! I would use this and horizontal blocks do seem more efficient and simple.

No support. Vertical blocks work just fine, and horizontal ones wouldn't have that big of an audience. the text on blocks is often long, and flipping it over would be awkward to read. It works fine for ScratchJr because it's simple with only numbers and images.

Might be good for people who know all the blocks and are looking to make their code less big. Other than that, I see no other use for this, but I like this suggestion and I would probably use it often.

I would love this, but It is easier to visualize and basically read the script instead of reading symbols

Support. While I wouldn't use it myself, I could see some others using it a lot.

It's on Github, it might get implemented

scratchgodo wrote:

Good Idea this can look nice but if you want to use horizontal blocks you can try ScratchJr.

My brother will use that

VedanshS933 wrote:

It's on Github, it might get implemented

Where?

No support, for 3 reasons.
1. Although it may be nice (not auctually, see #2 and #3) for very small (figuratively, as in non-complex) projects, it just becomes choas for normal sized to large projects.
2. Scratch teaches coding, and modern coding languages are formatted vertically. The goal of Scratch was to be an introduction to coding, so you can move on to auctually programming launguages.
3. Horizontal blocks would confuse Scratchers. Projects would be hard to navigate.

crabraveprogrammer wrote:

No support, for 3 reasons.
1. Although it may be nice (not auctually, see #2 and #3) for very small (figuratively, as in non-complex) projects, it just becomes choas for normal sized to large projects.
2. Scratch teaches coding, and modern coding languages are formatted vertically. The goal of Scratch was to be an introduction to coding, so you can move on to auctually programming launguages.
3. Horizontal blocks would confuse Scratchers. Projects would be hard to navigate.

There can be button which will switch between them (In my other suggestion) It can be vertical by default and we can switch to Horizontal.

Jbear_ wrote:

VedanshS933 wrote:

It's on Github, it might get implemented

Where?

I need to search for the link

no support , it'll make huge booleans pretty much unusable/very hard to use

Orphic_Studios wrote:

Support. While I wouldn't use it myself, I could see some others using it a lot.

I don't know who'll use it??

Support, on the coding thing I used before scratch, it had horizontal blocks, I'd love to feel nostaliga.

I would say no support, but:

VedanshS933 wrote:

There can be button to switch to them and we can use them. I know all the blocks since I became a Scratcher and I know it will be difficult for New Scratchers. So we can have the Vertical as default and we can switch to horizontal blocks.

I support, because there would still be a default vertical.

DinoMaster20 wrote:

I would say no support, but:

VedanshS933 wrote:

There can be button to switch to them and we can use them. I know all the blocks since I became a Scratcher and I know it will be difficult for New Scratchers. So we can have the Vertical as default and we can switch to horizontal blocks.

I support, because there would still be a default vertical.

Ok

No support, i don't like horizontal blocks because it seems more right vertical blocks, also they're too simple, i never liked scratch Jr blocks, they was too simple.

VedanshS933 wrote:

Horizontal Blocks look better in my opinion bit there are none of them. So how is this on the Scratch Wiki?





There can be button to switch to them and we can use them. I know all the blocks since I became a Scratcher and I know it will be difficult for New Scratchers. So we can have the Vertical as default and we can switch to horizontal blocks.

Pls Don't Mention ScratchJr as you have told me about it. ScratchJr is different and Scratch is different. ScratchJr is a app and they some people not want to download it (like me). So pls don't mention ScratchJr, mention something different which is not in the Scratch Family.

nice

no support. they're too fat for a PC (mobile devices dosent counts as scratch performance in mobile devices is terrible). plus, some scratcher may have problems with knowing what thing does each block (with the lack of text). and as a final strike, that would cause problems with educational sutff and all those things (it may sound strange, but that why the ST has rejected things like allowing the user to change the color of the blocks or bringing back the 2.0 layout)

What is this
https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/747641/15227351/c37c09da-1854-11e6-8dc7-9a298f2b1f01.jpg

https://github.com/LLK/scratch-blocks

patrovich wrote:

(it may sound strange, but that why the ST has rejected things like allowing the user to change the color of the blocks)

Then why is this topic not closed?

patrovich wrote:

no support. they're too fat for a PC (mobile devices dosent counts as scratch performance in mobile devices is terrible). plus, some scratcher may have problems with knowing what thing does each block (with the lack of text). and as a final strike, that would cause problems with educational sutff and all those things (it may sound strange, but that why the ST has rejected things like allowing the user to change the color of the blocks or bringing back the 2.0 layout)

What do you mean by “too fat” for a PC?
Scratchers wont have problems knowing each block if they are used to the vertical blocks. Remember, this option is toggleable.
How would it cause problems with education?

No. Simply no.

why.. ::#000000

whyyy.

I feel this would make coding confusing, especially for the big custom blocks and booleans like:

<<> and <<> and <<> and <>>>>

scratchgodo wrote:

patrovich wrote:

(it may sound strange, but that why the ST has rejected things like allowing the user to change the color of the blocks)

Then why is this topic not closed?

im not exactly sure about the rejection of the blocks' colors, but the educational reason has still been unsed by the ST to reject some suggestions. (plus, the ST may have not seen that topic)

7salad3salad wrote:

patrovich wrote:

no support. they're too fat for a PC (mobile devices dosent counts as scratch performance in mobile devices is terrible). plus, some scratcher may have problems with knowing what thing does each block (with the lack of text). and as a final strike, that would cause problems with educational sutff and all those things (it may sound strange, but that why the ST has rejected things like allowing the user to change the color of the blocks or bringing back the 2.0 layout)

What do you mean by “too fat” for a PC?
Scratchers wont have problems knowing each block if they are used to the vertical blocks. Remember, this option is toggleable.
How would it cause problems with education?

1: too big, they would take a lot of space in the editor compared to the vertical design, and without a clear benefit.
2: new scratchers (in terms of time using scratch, not in status) could get confused.
3: educators would have problems making their material, as students could be using another block shape style, if you still dont belive me, here's something from TOLORS:

Za-Chary wrote:

(2.3 Set the editor to look like older versions of Scratch
Some users prefer the look and feel of the Scratch 2.0 editor, and have suggested that the editor look like Scratch 2.0, but still run off of HTML5 like Scratch 3.0 does. However, this would be more complicated for educational and documentation purposes. It could be confusing if someone is trying to learn Scratch from someone who is using a completely different layout of the editor than them.

In addition, the Scratch Team changed the design for a reason: to make it easier, more intuitive, and friendlier for newcomers to use. If you dislike the Scratch 3.0 editor, you can still download the Scratch 1.4 or Scratch 2.0 offline editors.)

while this is clearly not the same suggestion, this same reason could also aply with this one, so yeah.

I don't support it because
1. #2 of #10, this led me to learn JS and it really helped because I know the functions and could visualize the blocks stacked up.
2. I am not familiar with horizontal blocks because I've never seen them
3. You won't be able to read long scripts and you can't activate giant booleans.
4. Can I see an if, else?
While I don't support it, I really like the mockup, how long did it take you to make it? Please don't take those as an offensive post, but I'm just expressing my thoughts. I encourage you to not give up though!

mcsquaggle wrote:

No. Simply no.

why.. ::#000000

whyyy.

Where's the constructiveness?

patrovich wrote:

no support. they're too fat for a PC (mobile devices dosent counts as scratch performance in mobile devices is terrible). plus, some scratcher may have problems with knowing what thing does each block (with the lack of text). and as a final strike, that would cause problems with educational sutff and all those things (it may sound strange, but that why the ST has rejected things like allowing the user to change the color of the blocks or bringing back the 2.0 layout)

You could easily scroll just like for the verticle blocks.

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

I don't support it because
1. #2 of #10, this led me to learn JS and it really helped because I know the functions and could visualize the blocks stacked up.
2. I am not familiar with horizontal blocks because I've never seen them
3. You won't be able to read long scripts and you can't activate giant booleans.
4. Can I see an if, else?
While I don't support it, I really like the mockup, how long did it take you to make it? Please don't take those as an offensive post, but I'm just expressing my thoughts. I encourage you to not give up though!

I found them on Scratch Wiki and Github

I don't know how to draw

Why is it on Github and not Implemented?

Bring Back The Topic

ZakAvocado wrote:

VedanshS933 wrote:

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/5934286/

nice

Do you Support or don't support. Also tell why you support or don't support. Pls don't quote the original Post.

mcsquaggle wrote:

No. Simply no.

why.. ::#000000

whyyy.

Why? Could you please elaborate?

Bring Back the Topic

it may be hard for beginners to understand, if you want to use these blocks than better use scratchjr

i dont support

No support. The layout of Scratch is already perfect. Also, there's a problem in the idea that other people have pointed out:

Say, you wanted to make a super long script for a game. Here's how it would normally look:

when green flag clicked
set [lives v] to (3)
clear
repeat until <(lives) = (3)>
repeat until <touching [mouse-pointer v] ?>
pen down
move (5) steps
point towards [mouse-pointer v]
end
change [lives v] by (-1)
pen up
say [You have lost a life!] for (2) secs
end
say [You lost....] for (2) secs
say [The End] for (2) secs

In horizontal blocks, it would be too long and confusing.

this could happen.. would be annoying

dave-alt-4 wrote:

this could happen.. would be annoying

Yeah… I'm changing from Semi-Support to No Support for this reason and the others mentioned above

Scrolling would be hard.
But I can make icons for all blocks in Scratch

Bring Back The Topic!

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

I don't support it because
1. #2 of #10, this led me to learn JS and it really helped because I know the functions and could visualize the blocks stacked up.
2. I am not familiar with horizontal blocks because I've never seen them
3. You won't be able to read long scripts and you can't activate giant booleans.
4. Can I see an if, else?
While I don't support it, I really like the mockup, how long did it take you to make it? Please don't take those as an offensive post, but I'm just expressing my thoughts. I encourage you to not give up though!

bro you can toggle it to either vertical of horizontal i thinks

I want to use vertical blocks. I do not want horizontal blocks in scratch. They have their names on so they are easier to understand. I would also have to get used to it. Also, you would not be able to put reporters and predicates.

Poofing to no support

k0d3rrr wrote:

No support. The layout of Scratch is already perfect. Also, there's a problem in the idea that other people have pointed out:

Say, you wanted to make a super long script for a game. Here's how it would normally look:

when green flag clicked
set [lives v] to (3)
clear
repeat until <(lives) = (3)>
repeat until <touching [mouse-pointer v] ?>
pen down
move (5) steps
point towards [mouse-pointer v]
end
change [lives v] by (-1)
pen up
say [You have lost a life!] for (2) secs
end
say [You lost....] for (2) secs
say [The End] for (2) secs

In horizontal blocks, it would be too long and confusing.

Bring Up My Topic/Suggestion

ayandhisarmy wrote:

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

I don't support it because
1. #2 of #10, this led me to learn JS and it really helped because I know the functions and could visualize the blocks stacked up.
2. I am not familiar with horizontal blocks because I've never seen them
3. You won't be able to read long scripts and you can't activate giant booleans.
4. Can I see an if, else?
While I don't support it, I really like the mockup, how long did it take you to make it? Please don't take those as an offensive post, but I'm just expressing my thoughts. I encourage you to not give up though!

bro you can toggle it to either vertical of horizontal i thinks

It will be toggalabe
Do you Support?

Scratch On!

VedanshS933 wrote:

ayandhisarmy wrote:

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

I don't support it because
1. #2 of #10, this led me to learn JS and it really helped because I know the functions and could visualize the blocks stacked up.
2. I am not familiar with horizontal blocks because I've never seen them
3. You won't be able to read long scripts and you can't activate giant booleans.
4. Can I see an if, else?
While I don't support it, I really like the mockup, how long did it take you to make it? Please don't take those as an offensive post, but I'm just expressing my thoughts. I encourage you to not give up though!

bro you can toggle it to either vertical of horizontal i thinks

It will be toggalabe
Do you Support?

Scratch On!

Not really…

Bring Up My Topic

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

VedanshS933 wrote:

ayandhisarmy wrote:

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

I don't support it because
1. #2 of #10, this led me to learn JS and it really helped because I know the functions and could visualize the blocks stacked up.
2. I am not familiar with horizontal blocks because I've never seen them
3. You won't be able to read long scripts and you can't activate giant booleans.
4. Can I see an if, else?
While I don't support it, I really like the mockup, how long did it take you to make it? Please don't take those as an offensive post, but I'm just expressing my thoughts. I encourage you to not give up though!

bro you can toggle it to either vertical of horizontal i thinks

It will be toggalabe
Do you Support?

Scratch On!

Not really…

Alright there is a link in OP which solves this reporter problem

No support, horizontal blocks are from Scratch Jr, and I think that they are a lot more confusing, so this wouldn't be good for beginners.

T0RRENT_ wrote:

No support, horizontal blocks are from Scratch Jr, and I think that they are a lot more confusing, so this wouldn't be good for beginners.

Lol, but Jr is for beginners (the little ones)