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Discuss about Apple Silicon chips and macOS here! These are topics related to Macs.

Wikipedia wrote:

macOS (previously Mac OS X and later OS X) is a proprietary graphical operating system developed and marketed by Apple Inc. It is the primary operating system for Apple's Mac computers. Within the market of desktop and laptop computers it is the second most widely used desktop OS, after Windows NT and ahead of Chrome OS.

The topic for discussing all things related to macOS! It's a really good OS with a easy to use GUI, a great terminal with shells like Bash and Zsh, and support for tons of Apps. The new rise of Apple Silicon chips have made macOS better than ever. I use an M1 MacBook Air with macOS Big Sur and it's the best laptop experience I've had.

macOS is also based off of Unix, so that means it shares some similarities with Linux, which is also based off of Unix, and that's a great advantage for a lot of people. But keep in mind that Linux and macOS use different kernels, Linux and Darwin respectively.

macOS is extremely popular among software developers and people who work in the IT industry. A lot of casual laptop users and students also use it for writing emails, browsing the web, and editing a few documents or presentations. The main reason for this is the amazing compatibility with software and hardware, which Linux and Windows lack.

Linux and Windows are also great OSs for people who use laptops for other reasons, this is just a topic to talk about macOS and to highlight it's features and drawbacks.

History of Apple Silicon -

b1048546 wrote:

Here's the history of the M-Series chips:

In 2010, Apple announced their own custom silicon for the iPhone and iPad. They named it the A4 for the iPhone 4. Over time, they made new chips for their iPhones and iPads. They've made chips all the way up to the A15 Bionic.

Once in a while, Apple had announced chips that ended with either an X or a Z. However, this only happened sometimes. These chips have the same type of cores as their generation. For example, A12X and A12Z have the same cores as the A12 Bionic. This means that these chips are extensions. The extension chips usually have things like more CPU cores, GPU cores, and RAM than their predecessors. Usually, the extension chips were made for the iPad Pro and higher-end iPhones. Apple killed the X and Z variant with M1 Pro/Max.

New generations of chips (eg. A5, A6) get more efficient and more powerful. The core count is rarely changed. Eventually, Apple scaled up the A14 IP up to M1. They added two firestorm cores and 4 GPU cores to the M1. The M1 also had Mac-specific IPs, slightly higher clock speeds, and more ram. This led to the 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU, and a chip with 8/16 GB unified memory which is known M1. Apple had 10 years to perfect their chips and we ended up with the M1/A14 IP. Now we have a productive improvement in A15 with better E cores and memory management.

A14X is M1 and M1X is now known as M1 Pro/Max. If someone mentions M.X then they're talking about M<generation> Pro/Max. A14 IP means that every chip on that IP started from the A14 IP but added features that are Mac specific. Same goes for A15 IP, etc. M1 Pro and Max have up to a 10 core CPU, 32 core GPU, 64 GB unified memory. The chip has more media engines and features than M1. Future chips could include 2X and 4X variants of M1 Max.

Apple Silicon DEEP dive — https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/5816096/

well…
i use device for gaming and probably something else

Venatus_123 wrote:

gaming

what games?

Chiroyce wrote:

Venatus_123 wrote:

gaming

what games?

I assume games that actually run. A scaled-up m-series chip (such as m1x) with an eGPU or a ton of integrated graphics cores could handle gaming. Games just need to be brought over to the mac lol

Chiroyce wrote:

Venatus_123 wrote:

gaming

what games?

gta and probably fortnite

Venatus_123 wrote:

fortnite

works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbGyG1VBtzo

Chiroyce wrote:

Venatus_123 wrote:

fortnite

works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbGyG1VBtzo

what about gta v

Here's the history of the M-Series chips:

In 2010, Apple announced their own custom silicon for the iPhone and iPad. They named it the A4 for the iPhone 4. Over time, they made new chips for their iPhones and iPads. They've made chips all the way up to the A15 Bionic.

Once in a while, Apple had announced chips that ended with either an X or a Z. However, this only happened sometimes. These chips have the same type of cores as their generation. For example, A12X and A12Z have the same cores as the A12 Bionic. This means that these chips are extensions. The extension chips usually have things like more CPU cores, GPU cores, and RAM than their predecessors. Usually, the extension chips were made for the iPad Pro and higher-end iPhones. Apple killed the X and Z variant with M1 Pro/Max. Then they scaled up M1 Max to M1 Ultra by combining the dies.

New generations of chips (eg. A5, A6) get more efficient and more powerful. The core count is rarely changed. Eventually, Apple scaled up the A14 IP up to M1. They added two firestorm cores and 4 GPU cores to the M1. The M1 also had Mac-specific IPs, slightly higher clock speeds, and more ram. This led to the 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU, and a chip with 8/16 GB unified memory which is known M1. Apple had 10 years to perfect their chips and we ended up with the M1/A14 IP. Now we have a productive improvement in A15 with better E cores and memory management.

A14X is M1 and M1X is now known as M1 Pro/Max. If someone mentions M.X then they're talking about M<generation> Pro/Max. A14 IP means that every chip on that IP started from the A14 IP but added features that are Mac specific. Same goes for A15 IP, etc. M1 Pro and Max have up to a 10 core CPU, 32 core GPU, 64 GB unified memory. The chip has more media engines and features than M1. Future chips could include xN variants of T6500.

b1048546 wrote:

Here's the history of the m-series chips:

added to the OP!

Chiroyce wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

Here's the history of the m-series chips:

added to the OP!

I may format it better later since it's kind of a mess now.

b1048546 wrote:

I may format it better later since it's kind of a mess now.

Ok!
Also the new M1X or the M2 chip is planned to come out this September - on the new 16" MacBook pro, and maybe the 14" MacBook pro.

There have been leaked benchmarks of the 14 core Intel Alder Lake CPU. (They may not be true as they're leaks.) It includes six Golden Cove cores and eight Gracemon cores. However, they lose to both M1 AND the AMD Ryzen 7 5800H. The great thing about M1 is its single-core performance. If Apple can make it scale well they can create a ridiculous chip.

b1048546 wrote:

If Apple can make it scale well they can create a ridiculous chip.

They will soon, with M1X (hopefully lol)!

b1048546 wrote:

The great thing about M1 is its single-core performance.

Yep!

Chiroyce wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

If Apple can make it scale well they can create a ridiculous chip.

They will soon, with M1X (hopefully lol)!

b1048546 wrote:

The great thing about M1 is its single-core performance.

Yep!

Is more or less better?

dhuls wrote:

Is more or less better?

More, so the i9 is better, but it does come close in terms of single core.

Chiroyce wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

If Apple can make it scale well they can create a ridiculous chip.

They will soon, with M1X (hopefully lol)!

b1048546 wrote:

The great thing about M1 is its single-core performance.

Yep!

ayyy my dad have ASus but im not allowed to use it

Chiroyce wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

I may format it better later since it's kind of a mess now.

Ok!
Also the new M1X or the M2 chip is planned to come out this September - on the new 16" MacBook pro, and maybe the 14" MacBook pro.

No, they'll get M1X. As I said, the number is the generation. Why would they have high-end products contain a generation product? An m1x would be > m2 in everything to do with multi-core. Assuming M1X is coming, (which I do think so) I think it'll get a CPU that's 10 or 12 cores. (I don't mean options, I mean either a 10 or 12 core chip as SET.) If it's 10 cores then 8 high-performance cores and 2 efficiency cores. If it's 12 cores then I think it'll be 8 high-performance cores and 4 efficiency cores (Unlike others who think if it's a 12 core CPU then it'll get 10 high-performance cores.) Either way, I expect them to use TSMCs N5P node enhancement, which delivers 15% power savings vs N5. This allows them to have fewer efficiency cores. (Plus these pro models will have bigger batteries.) I also expect Apple to include a 16-32 core GPU. The M1X will have 32 GPU cores but Apple can utilize chip binning to create a variety of chip options. This can give them better yields for chiplets that failed in testing but work enough to sell them. So for something like the Mac Pro, I expect them to save a TON of money. I expect the Mac Pro to have 4 or 8 efficiency cores. That's going to save them a ton of money because then they can put M1X chips together using chiplet technology. This means that Apple can mass-produce a single chip and save a TON of money. That is if any of this actually happens. (This is also assuming it's a 10-core CPU, a 12-core CPU would have slightly different numbers.) Apple will never truly make a desktop though. One word: Cooling. That may change if they add 2 fans in the new Macbook Pros. Hopefully, they can integrate that into their higher-end “desktops”. However, most people who actually need more cooling probably use Linux or sometimes Windows. For desktops, AMD and Intel are the ones competing. macOS doesn't work for a lot of things, especially for companies who need servers for data. (It doesn't matter how good their chips get, they need cooling.) You can't go into a data center without wearing a jacket. So for higher-end CPUs, Apple doesn't really have anyone to compete with.

Chiroyce wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

If Apple can make it scale well they can create a ridiculous chip.

They will soon, with M1X (hopefully lol)!

b1048546 wrote:

The great thing about M1 is its single-core performance.

Yep!

Intel is doing really badly right now. Struggling to beat the WEAKEST m-series chip, the M1. (That doesn't include higher end. We can't compare desktops to computers even though Apple is doing a really good job, with M1X *maybe.*) They're struggling with their 14 core chip.

By the way, it's chiplets. Not chip“sets”.

b1048546 wrote:

Chiroyce wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

If Apple can make it scale well they can create a ridiculous chip.

They will soon, with M1X (hopefully lol)!

b1048546 wrote:

The great thing about M1 is its single-core performance.

Yep!

Intel is doing really badly right now. Struggling to beat the WEAKEST m-series chip, the M1.

They've been stuck on 14 nm for 6 years now come on!

dhuls wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

Intel is doing really badly right now. Struggling to beat the WEAKEST m-series chip, the M1.

They've been stuck on 14 nm for 6 years now come on!

A 10nm intel = 7nm TSMC. (10nm intel has terrible yields though so it doesn't really matter.)

b1048546 wrote:

There have been leaked benchmarks of the 14 core Intel Alder Lake CPU. (They may not be true as they're leaks.) It includes six Golden Cove cores and eight Gracemon cores. However, they lose to both M1 AND the AMD Ryzen 7 5800H. The great thing about M1 is its single-core performance. If Apple can make it scale well they can create a ridiculous chip.

Oh, and it has 20 threads.

My dad might get the m1x 16in macbook pro when it comes out. He has a really good macbook pro right now but it's nothing compared to his m1 ipad pro or my mom's m1 macbook air. And I just have an old mid 2015 macbook pro
Edit: said imac instead of macbook air

scratchusername40 wrote:

My dad might get the m1x 16in macbook pro when it comes out. He has a really good macbook pro right now but it's nothing compared to his m1 ipad pro or my mom's m1 imac. And I just have an old mid 2015 macbook pro

The 2015 ones are really good!

Chiroyce wrote:

Discuss about Apple M1 and upcoming Apple M series chipsets here!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_M1
https://www.apple.com/in/newsroom/2020/11/apple-unleashes-m1/

I use an M1 MacBook Air, specs —
16GB RAM (LPDDR4)
8 core CPU (4 efficiency cores, 4 high performance cores)
8 core GPU

it's extremely fast and snappy for anything a 13 year old non-gamer needs

History -

b1048546 wrote:

In 2004, Apple announced their own custom silicon for the iPhone and iPad. They named it the A4. Over the years they made new chips for their iPhones and iPads. They've made chips from the A4 to A14. In between, they've had things like A5X, A12X, and A12Z. These in-between chips had more CPU cores, GPU cores, and things like more ram. However, things like A12X had the same type of cores as A12. The X and Z chips are always the same generation, they're just an extension to that generation's chip. Usually, these extended chips were for the iPad Pro. New generations of chips (eg. A5, A6) got more efficient and more powerful. The core count is RARELY changed. At the point of A14, Apple had 11+ years of experience with making new generations and extensions to those generations. They scaled A14 up to M1. (Even though it really is just an A14X.) They added two firestorm cores and 4 GPU cores to the M1. The M1 also had Mac-specific IPs, slightly higher clock speeds, and more ram. This led to the 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU, 8-16 GB of ram M1 chip. Apple has 11+ years to perfect their chips and we ended up with M1.

Wow!

b1048546 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

My dad might get the m1x 16in macbook pro when it comes out. He has a really good macbook pro right now but it's nothing compared to his m1 ipad pro or my mom's m1 macbook air. And I just have an old mid 2015 macbook pro

The 2015 ones are really good!

They are, but I often have like 15+ tabs open and the fans are going full speed. At 25-35 tabs the computer starts not running as fast

scratchusername40 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

My dad might get the m1x 16in macbook pro when it comes out. He has a really good macbook pro right now but it's nothing compared to his m1 ipad pro or my mom's m1 macbook air. And I just have an old mid 2015 macbook pro

The 2015 ones are really good!

They are, but I often have like 15+ tabs open and the fans are going full speed. At 25-35 tabs the computer starts not running as fast

I doubt the M1 will run at full speed with that many tabs open though…

b1048546 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

My dad might get the m1x 16in macbook pro when it comes out. He has a really good macbook pro right now but it's nothing compared to his m1 ipad pro or my mom's m1 macbook air. And I just have an old mid 2015 macbook pro

The 2015 ones are really good!

They are, but I often have like 15+ tabs open and the fans are going full speed. At 25-35 tabs the computer starts not running as fast

I doubt the M1 will run at full speed with that many tabs open though…

The wall street journal says:

The Wall Street Journal wrote:

Fifty browsing tabs? Not at a peep or a degree above 80 Fahrenheit on either M1-powered system. The Intel-powered Air? Thirty-five tabs got its fans revving, and it hit 93 degrees.

How about 65 tabs? The M1-powered Air was still cool and quiet, though it began showing signs of sluggish scrolling and tab switching. The Intel-powered 13-inch MacBook Pro powered up its fan at around 75 tabs. At a whopping 100 tabs—which no sane human could ever navigate—the M1-powered Pro was quiet as a mouse and scrolling pages smoothly. Even when I threw in a Zoom call, it kept silent. I finally got the new MacBook Pro’s fan to kick on, with a temperature of 98 degrees, when playing “Rise of Tomb Raider” while simultaneously exporting a 4K video in Adobe Premiere and running some Chrome tabs in the background.

scratchusername40 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

They are, but I often have like 15+ tabs open and the fans are going full speed. At 25-35 tabs the computer starts not running as fast

I doubt the M1 will run at full speed with that many tabs open though…

The wall street journal says:

The Wall Street Journal wrote:

Fifty browsing tabs? Not at a peep or a degree above 80 Fahrenheit on either M1-powered system. The Intel-powered Air? Thirty-five tabs got its fans revving, and it hit 93 degrees.

How about 65 tabs? The M1-powered Air was still cool and quiet, though it began showing signs of sluggish scrolling and tab switching. The Intel-powered 13-inch MacBook Pro powered up its fan at around 75 tabs. At a whopping 100 tabs—which no sane human could ever navigate—the M1-powered Pro was quiet as a mouse and scrolling pages smoothly. Even when I threw in a Zoom call, it kept silent. I finally got the new MacBook Pro’s fan to kick on, with a temperature of 98 degrees, when playing “Rise of Tomb Raider” while simultaneously exporting a 4K video in Adobe Premiere and running some Chrome tabs in the background.

Fair, but that's pretty hot. (also, why do you need 35 tabs lol)

scratchusername40 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

I doubt the M1 will run at full speed with that many tabs open though…

The wall street journal says:

The Wall Street Journal wrote:

Fifty browsing tabs? Not at a peep or a degree above 80 Fahrenheit on either M1-powered system. The Intel-powered Air? Thirty-five tabs got its fans revving, and it hit 93 degrees.

How about 65 tabs? The M1-powered Air was still cool and quiet, though it began showing signs of sluggish scrolling and tab switching. The Intel-powered 13-inch MacBook Pro powered up its fan at around 75 tabs. At a whopping 100 tabs—which no sane human could ever navigate—the M1-powered Pro was quiet as a mouse and scrolling pages smoothly. Even when I threw in a Zoom call, it kept silent. I finally got the new MacBook Pro’s fan to kick on, with a temperature of 98 degrees, when playing “Rise of Tomb Raider” while simultaneously exporting a 4K video in Adobe Premiere and running some Chrome tabs in the background.

What about the fanless MacBook air?

b1048546 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

They are, but I often have like 15+ tabs open and the fans are going full speed. At 25-35 tabs the computer starts not running as fast

I doubt the M1 will run at full speed with that many tabs open though…

The wall street journal says:

The Wall Street Journal wrote:

Fifty browsing tabs? Not at a peep or a degree above 80 Fahrenheit on either M1-powered system. The Intel-powered Air? Thirty-five tabs got its fans revving, and it hit 93 degrees.

How about 65 tabs? The M1-powered Air was still cool and quiet, though it began showing signs of sluggish scrolling and tab switching. The Intel-powered 13-inch MacBook Pro powered up its fan at around 75 tabs. At a whopping 100 tabs—which no sane human could ever navigate—the M1-powered Pro was quiet as a mouse and scrolling pages smoothly. Even when I threw in a Zoom call, it kept silent. I finally got the new MacBook Pro’s fan to kick on, with a temperature of 98 degrees, when playing “Rise of Tomb Raider” while simultaneously exporting a 4K video in Adobe Premiere and running some Chrome tabs in the background.

Fair, but that's pretty hot. (also, why do you need 35 tabs lol)

I use over 100 on a low-end laptop.

hello_smile wrote:

I use over 100 on a low-end laptop.

Yeah, the M1 chip will destroy something that's 6 years old. So will the m1x to the m1 in a couple of months. That wasn't my point.

b1048546 wrote:

hello_smile wrote:

I use over 100 on a low-end laptop.

Yeah, the M1 chip will destroy something that's 6 years old. So will the m1x to the m1 in a couple of months. That wasn't my point.

I know. And over 100 makes 5fps.

hello_smile wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

hello_smile wrote:

I use over 100 on a low-end laptop.

Yeah, the M1 chip will destroy something that's 6 years old. So will the m1x to the m1 in a couple of months. That wasn't my point.

I know. And over 100 makes 5fps.

Why do you need that many tabs lol. The M1 can handle SO many tabs. It has the highest browser rating I've ever seen.

b1048546 wrote:

hello_smile wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

hello_smile wrote:

I use over 100 on a low-end laptop.

Yeah, the M1 chip will destroy something that's 6 years old. So will the m1x to the m1 in a couple of months. That wasn't my point.

I know. And over 100 makes 5fps.

Why do you need that many tabs lol. The M1 can handle SO many tabs. It has the highest browser rating I've ever seen.

I am buying an M-series Mac as soon as I am 18.

Does anyone think Apple will cool the Macbook Air in the next generations to come?

b1048546 wrote:

Does anyone think Apple will cool the Macbook Air in the next generations to come?

No.

Chiroyce wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

I may format it better later since it's kind of a mess now.

Ok!

I've done it. https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/5531087

hello_smile wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

Does anyone think Apple will cool the Macbook Air in the next generations to come?

No.

Wouldn't Apple be worried that the Macbook Air will throttle?

Venatus_123 wrote:

Chiroyce wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

If Apple can make it scale well they can create a ridiculous chip.

They will soon, with M1X (hopefully lol)!

b1048546 wrote:

The great thing about M1 is its single-core performance.

Yep!

ayyy my dad have ASus but im not allowed to use it

What?

hello_smile wrote:

Venatus_123 wrote:

Chiroyce wrote:

Yep!

ayyy my dad have ASus but im not allowed to use it

What?

It's just a computer. Did you look at the image? It's a comparison between the M1 and the Intel Core i9-11900K (which is very impressive that the M1 CAN be compared to it.)

b1048546 wrote:

Chiroyce wrote:

b1048546 wrote:

I may format it better later since it's kind of a mess now.

Ok!
Also the new M1X or the M2 chip is planned to come out this September - on the new 16" MacBook pro, and maybe the 14" MacBook pro.

No, they'll get M1X. As I said, the number is the generation. Why would they have high-end products contain a generation product? An m1x would be > m2 in everything to do with multi-core. Assuming M1X is coming, (which I do think so) I think it'll get a CPU that's 10 or 12 cores. (I don't mean options, I mean either a 10 or 12 core chip as SET.) If it's 10 cores then 8 high-performance cores and 2 efficiency cores. If it's 12 cores then I think it'll be 8 high-performance cores and 4 efficiency cores (Unlike others who think if it's a 12 core CPU then it'll get 10 high-performance cores.) Either way, I expect them to use TSMCs N5P node enhancement, which delivers 15% power savings vs N5. This allows them to have fewer efficiency cores. (Plus these pro models will have bigger batteries.) I also expect Apple to include a 16-32 core GPU. The M1X will have 32 GPU cores but Apple can utilize chip binning to create a variety of chip options. This can give them better yields for chiplets that failed in testing but work enough to sell them. So for something like the Mac Pro, I expect them to save a TON of money. I expect the Mac Pro to have 4 or 8 efficiency cores. That's going to save them a ton of money because then they can put M1X chips together using chiplet technology. This means that Apple can mass-produce a single chip and save a TON of money. That is if any of this actually happens. (This is also assuming it's a 10-core CPU, a 12-core CPU would have slightly different numbers.) Apple will never truly make a desktop though. One word: Cooling. That may change if they add 2 fans in the new Macbook Pros. Hopefully, they can integrate that into their higher-end “desktops”. However, most people who actually need more cooling probably use Linux or sometimes Windows. For desktops, AMD and Intel are the ones competing. macOS doesn't work for a lot of things, especially for companies who need servers for data. (It doesn't matter how good their chips get, they need cooling.) You can't go into a data center without wearing a jacket. So for higher-end CPUs, Apple doesn't really have anyone to compete with.

That would be AMAZING!

b1048546 wrote:

Here's the history of the m-series chips:

In 2004, Apple announced their own custom silicon for the iPhone and iPad.

They named it the A4. Over time, they made new chips for their iPhones and iPads. They've made chips all the way up to the A14 Bionic.

Once in a while, Apple had announced chips that ended with either an X or a Z. However, this only happened sometimes. These chips have the same type of cores as their generation. For example, A12X and A12Z have the same cores as the A12 Bionic. This means that these chips are extensions. The extension chips usually have things like more CPU cores, GPU cores, and RAM than their predecessors. Usually, the extension chips were made for the iPad Pro and higher-end iPhones.

New generations of chips (eg. A5, A6) get more efficient and more powerful. The core count is RARELY changed.
Eventually, they scaled A14 up to M1. They added two firestorm cores and 4 GPU cores to the M1. The M1 also had Mac-specific IPs, slightly higher clock speeds, and more ram. This led to the 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU, 8-16 GB of ram M1 chip. Apple had 11+ years to perfect their chips and we ended up with M1.

To clarify: A14X is the M1 chip. (Because Apple confused everyone.)

2004? iPhone didn't exist until 2007 and didn't use an Apple-made chip until 2010.

b1048546 wrote:

Here's the history of the m-series chips:

In 2010, Apple announced their own custom silicon for the iPhone and iPad.

They named it the A4. Over time, they made new chips for their iPhones and iPads. They've made chips all the way up to the A14 Bionic.

Once in a while, Apple had announced chips that ended with either an X or a Z. However, this only happened sometimes. These chips have the same type of cores as their generation. For example, A12X and A12Z have the same cores as the A12 Bionic. This means that these chips are extensions. The extension chips usually have things like more CPU cores, GPU cores, and RAM than their predecessors. Usually, the extension chips were made for the iPad Pro and higher-end iPhones.

New generations of chips (eg. A5, A6) get more efficient and more powerful. The core count is RARELY changed.
Eventually, they scaled A14 up to M1. They added two firestorm cores and 4 GPU cores to the M1. The M1 also had Mac-specific IPs, slightly higher clock speeds, and more ram. This led to the 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU, 8-16 GB of ram M1 chip. Apple had 11+ years to perfect their chips and we ended up with M1.

To clarify: A14X is the M1 chip. (Because Apple confused everyone.)

Push revisions

dominic305 wrote:

2004? iPhone didn't exist until 2007 and didn't use an Apple-made chip until 2010.

Oops, will fix it. Thanks!

hello_smile wrote:

Push revisions

Please snip.

What do you mean?

hello_smile wrote:

That would be AMAZING!

Please snip next time as that is a big quote.

Anyways, I don't see how it's an “if they do it” scenario. If they make M1X, they will do some of this. (Or even better.) 10 or 12 cores is only 2 to 4 CPU cores added. Perhaps the graphic cores are a little crazier, but if they don't do this what will they do for their Mac Pro? Oh, I also assume that 32 or 64 GB of ram will be the max. That's much better than the current 8 or 16. It'll be the best laptop chip in the world! The only way I see them not making it as crazy as this is if they do 4 efficiency cores and 6 high-performance cores (assuming it's 10 cores) This wouldn't make sense as the Macbook Pros will have much bigger batteries and the desktop systems won't even HAVE batteries. 2 will be enough, especially with N5P. I also think the “pro” systems will have better cooling as well.

Imagine a 2048-core M1 with 1024 GPU cores and 128TB RAM singlehandedly running the backend for all of Apple's websites, able to reboot in 0.01 seconds.

hello_smile wrote:

Imagine a 2048-core M1 with 1024 GPU cores and 128TB RAM singlehandedly running the backend for all of Apple's websites, able to reboot in 0.01 seconds.

Why did you have to post this here? Plus, I talked about (even if you scaled it down realistically) why you couldn't do it with Macs. (And why the imacs and the mac pro's and stuff aren't really desktops.) The cooling is on a VERY small scale on Macs.

I just thought about something. M1X may have 10 firestorm cores and 2 icestorm cores if it has 12 cores. I'm thinking if it does have 12 cores it'll have 8 firestorm cores and 4 icestorm cores.