Bring back the Remix Tree Button! [READ BEFORE REPLYING!!!]

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Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems that the remix tree visualisation is gone in Scratch 3.0.

Please bring it back!

In the mean time, has anyone made their own, using the public-facing APIs?

The page still exists (*/remixtree), so all that's needed (in theory) is an accessible button to link to it.

While we're at it, please add a link to the forums in the header, not just the footer.
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If you just scroll down, there is a view all link next to the remixes.
You can always just use:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/<PROJECT ID>/remixtree/
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Hello darkness my old friend…
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Simply type “/remixtree” at the end of the url.

big]Click me to go back to the homepage.
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caden203569 wrote:

Simply type “/remixtree” at the end of the url.

big]Click me to go back to the homepage.
This was already answered. Please don't necropost.
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Support.
I had a topic that was closed as a duplicate, so here's my opinion:
Part 1: Introduction
I want the Remix Tree (to be more specific, its button) to come back to Scratch. It was a useful feature. Now, to access it I must type “/remixtree” to the end of the project URL. I feel like a large amount of users will not know how to do this, and for users who joined post-3.0 will not know a “Remix Tree” even existed.
Part 2: Redesign
The remix tree hasn't had any redesigns from 2.0 to 3.0. It would be cool if Scratch Team modified the graphics, but also added some features.
Part 3: No, it's not unnecessary
It is much easier to use than navigating through loads of trash remixes in a grid. It was good to find out the good remixes, and the people who are just screwing up the project (and then someone else making a remix of that remix, screwing it up even further).
Part 3.5: Unnecessary ≠ Useless ≠ Removed
The Remix Tree is ALREADY THERE, so there is no harm in adding it back in. Someone could make a Firefox extension that adds the button back in, and that would be it.

antman99999 wrote:

Hello darkness my old friend…
I’ve come to talk to you again……
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1. Your posts are necropost.
2. No Support. Just do this:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/<PROJECT ID>/remixtree/

Morimop wrote:

2. No Support. Just do this:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/<PROJECT ID>/remixtree/
That is not a valid point. We could simply remove the “Create” button as you could simply go to the URL bar and type "https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/editor/".

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

Morimop wrote:

2. No Support. Just do this:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/<PROJECT ID>/remixtree/
That is not a valid point. We could simply remove the “Create” button as you could simply go to the URL bar and type "https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/editor/".
We could simply remove the “My Profile”, “My Stuff”, “Messages”, the link at the bottom that links to the discussion forums
But all of these buttons are used very often (and the link at the bottom is very important to the forum users), and the “Remix Tree” button was removed due to “lack of usage and necessity”.
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WindOctahedron wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

Morimop wrote:

2. No Support. Just do this:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/<PROJECT ID>/remixtree/
That is not a valid point. We could simply remove the “Create” button as you could simply go to the URL bar and type "https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/editor/".
We could simply remove the “My Profile”, “My Stuff”, “Messages”, the link at the bottom that links to the discussion forums
But all of these buttons are used very often (and the link at the bottom is very important to the forum users), and the “Remix Tree” button was removed due to “lack of usage and necessity”.
It was a good visualisation of all the remixes of a project, along with remixes of remixes and so on, and it worked best on projects that heavily used remixing such as collaboration projects or those remix project things that get on front page for being top remixed. I think it would be better if the Remix Tree was not updated to Scratch 3 though, since not many people used it often (I know I didn't). However, if someone wants to, they may be able to make their own remix tree program using the Scratch API, and if so, I'd say that's the way to go.

WindOctahedron wrote:

the “Remix Tree” button was removed due to “lack of usage and necessity”.
Although that's true, the reason the user wrote in his/her post is not a reason. It would have been a reason if it was “it's not very used”, but not “you can add * at the end”. Almost every button on the homepage leads to a page that has this URL: https://scratch.mit.edu/* where * stands for the added parameter, but we still have them.

What I'm trying to say is NOT that we should bring the Remix Button back, but that “you can go there by writing * in the URL” is not a reason.

Morimop wrote:

1. Your posts are necropost.
2. No Support. Just do this:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/<PROJECT ID>/remixtree/
This post is not mine but i think its very reasonable. (by Toad-1)
I
had a topic that was closed as a duplicate, so here's my opinion:
Part 1: Introduction
I want the Remix Tree (to be more specific, its button) to come back to Scratch. It was a useful feature. Now, to access it I must type “/remixtree” to the end of the project URL. I feel like a large amount of users will not know how to do this, and for users who joined post-3.0 will not know a “Remix Tree” even existed.
Part 2: Redesign
The remix tree hasn't had any redesigns from 2.0 to 3.0. It would be cool if Scratch Team modified the graphics, but also added some features.
Part 3: No, it's not unnecessary
It is much easier to use than navigating through loads of trash remixes in a grid. It was good to find out the good remixes, and the people who are just screwing up the project (and then someone else making a remix of that remix, screwing it up even further).
Part 3.5: Unnecessary ≠ Useless ≠ Removed
The Remix Tree is ALREADY THERE, so there is no harm in adding it back in. Someone could make a Firefox extension that adds the button back in, and that would be it.
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You can easily just type in /remixtree at the end of the URL of the project ID.
EXAMPLE:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/2675989/remixtree
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/151004481/remixtree
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LegoManiac04 wrote:

You can always just use:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/<PROJECT ID>/remixtree/
thank you man
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zabro29 wrote:

LegoManiac04 wrote:

You can always just use:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/<PROJECT ID>/remixtree/
thank you man
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Thanks to the_blue_kirby for
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The remix tree very well still exists. Just type “remixtree” at the back of the url.
Here is an example: /projects/343024933/remixtree/

Toad-1 wrote:

Support.
I want the Remix Tree (to be more specific, its button) to come back to Scratch..
It still exists! You need to use the URLs though.
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say [Why do so many people want the remix tree back?] for (2) secs
ask [What do you think?] and wait
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Support. It's nice to have a visualization.

ry-lazer wrote:

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say [Why do so many people want the remix tree back?] for (2) secs
ask [What do you think?] and wait
What you're doing is called blockspam and is a type of spam. Please don't spam.
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Ceave wrote:

It's actually really surprisingly simple. Type “/remixtree” at the end of the url.

Click me to go back to the homepage.
Support because even though there is a workaround, it is not actually really surprisingly convenient to do.
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123456 and what?
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Starstriker3000 wrote:

ry-lazer wrote:

when green flag clicked
move (34) steps
say [Why do so many people want the remix tree back?] for (2) secs
ask [What do you think?] and wait
What you're doing is called blockspam and is a type of spam. Please don't spam.

I did not know what blockspam was, sorry.
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Toad-1 wrote:

Support.
I had a topic that was closed as a duplicate, so here's my opinion:
Part 1: Introduction
I want the Remix Tree (to be more specific, its button) to come back to Scratch. It was a useful feature. Now, to access it I must type “/remixtree” to the end of the project URL. I feel like a large amount of users will not know how to do this, and for users who joined post-3.0 will not know a “Remix Tree” even existed.
Part 2: Redesign
The remix tree hasn't had any redesigns from 2.0 to 3.0. It would be cool if Scratch Team modified the graphics, but also added some features.
Part 3: No, it's not unnecessary
It is much easier to use than navigating through loads of trash remixes in a grid. It was good to find out the good remixes, and the people who are just screwing up the project (and then someone else making a remix of that remix, screwing it up even further).
Part 3.5: Unnecessary ≠ Useless ≠ Removed
The Remix Tree is ALREADY THERE, so there is no harm in adding it back in. Someone could make a Firefox extension that adds the button back in, and that would be it.

That is exactly what i was thinking. your smart!

jacobdepew wrote:

when green flag clicked
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play sound [floral fury v] until done
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Hey! I understand that you really want to test out the Scratchblocks feature on the forums, but please go to the official Scratch testing topic to test them out. What you're doing now is irrelevantly posting blocks on a topic, which is not allowed. You won't be banned or anything though, I've also made this mistake a lot! ^^

But hey, congratulations on making a post!
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antman99999 wrote:

Hello darkness my old friend…
Hello darkness my old friend, I'm glad to be with you again, for a vision softly creeping, left at seas while I was sleeping, and the vision that something something something, still remains, within the sound of silence. Okay, so anyway, THEY NEED TO BRING BACK REMIX TREE!!!! And need to be able to search for Scratchers.
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when green flag clicked
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caden203569 wrote:

Simply type “/remixtree” at the end of the url.
That does work, but I doubt new Scratchers would know to do that.

The remix tree is a very useful feature for things like “add yourself” projects, as it allows you to navigate large remix chains and get a visual representation of all the remix “branches” without having to hop between lots of projects. To someone who doesn't know of the remix tree, navigating through large chains of projects would be very tedious and slow as you'd have to find a remix on the remixes tab on the right hand side of the page, click it, wait for the page to load and then repeat the process for however many times you'd need to get up to the latest remix, which could take ages depending on how long the remix chain is. On top of that there's no way to gauge when each remix branch ends or which of the remix branches is longer so finding the biggest remix of a certain project is practically impossible unless you want to go through lots and lots of projects which would be tedious and impractical.

The whole reason the remix tree exists is to make navigating through large remix chains simple and intuitive and without the remix tree button visible on project pages, New Scratchers likely won't know of it meaning they won't be able to navigate through large remix chains meaning they will be much less likely to try and participate in things like “add yourself” projects due to the lack of easy navigation.

I don't know if it's just me but I don't see any “add yourself” projects on the front page anymore, and I feel like they're not popular anymore due to the lack of a visible remix tree. It'd be great if the remix tree button was re-added to project pages so everyone knew of it again, as that was one of Scratch 2.0's core features and it promotes collaboration and all sorts of adventurous projects.
it still exists, just add /remixtree at the end of the URL of the project.
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The remix tree is hidden from 3.0
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But some kids don't know how to change the URL, and that they can type “/remixtree” to access it.

Seth_Zaw wrote:

But some kids don't know how to change the URL, and that they can type “/remixtree” to access it.
True, maybe next to the remix button, a view all remixes button?
This may seem like a small thing. It's only two different ways of seeing remixes.
But there is a difference. With the current system, you can only see just the remixes of that one project. You can't see the remixes of the remixes.
This affects (small) things like “add yourself doing _____” projects no longer go in a perfect line of remixes of remixes. Instead of being all remixes of the original project.
It's not gone, just inaccessible without links or url typing.
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if <remix tree gets added> then 

oh yeah

else
ADD THEM BACK NOW!!
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jacobdepew wrote:

when green flag clicked
Please don't blockspam.
when green flag clicked==
if <[Remix tree] = [false]> then
broadcast [get remix tree back boiis]


else
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when I receive [get remix tree back boiis]
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Scratch Wiki wrote:

The Remix Tree was a way of showing an extensive hierarchy of remixes originating from one project. To access the remix tree of a project, one clicked the “tree” button at the rightmost edge of the project statistics bar. When visualized, hearts were bundled near projects with many love-its, and one could navigate through the various branches and explore the chains of remixing. If a project had too many remixes, not all remixes would be shown simultaneously, but instead one could select folders of remixes which will then unravel. However, there was an issue where sometimes branches goes under the screen, and the rest of the branch was not visible in any way. The button was removed in Scratch 3.0, due to its lack of use and necessity. However, remix trees can still be accessed by adding /remixtree to any project URL.

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