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I think there should be a following limit of about 1000 because
-Stop Follow-Everybody accounts
-Stop accounts that are following people for no reason because I saw someone who's following over 5000 people I'm not joking
-Have less F4F but it isn't completely banned

I believe there is a limit it's just a lot higher. If there would be a lower limit it should be way more than 200.

powercon5 wrote:

I believe there is a limit it's just a lot higher. If there would be a lower limit it should be way more than 200.

Then it needs to be a way lower. People are following a lot of people just so people will follow them back. Maybe a limit of 500 or 600?

DisasterPug wrote:

powercon5 wrote:

I believe there is a limit it's just a lot higher. If there would be a lower limit it should be way more than 200.

Then it needs to be a way lower. People are following a lot of people just so people will follow them back. Maybe a limit of 500 or 600?

How about 1000?

powercon5 wrote:

DisasterPug wrote:

powercon5 wrote:

I believe there is a limit it's just a lot higher. If there would be a lower limit it should be way more than 200.

Then it needs to be a way lower. People are following a lot of people just so people will follow them back. Maybe a limit of 500 or 600?

How about 1000?

Yeah ok

DisasterPug wrote:

I think there should be a following limit of about 1000 because
-Stop Follow-Everybody accounts
-Stop accounts that are following people for no reason because I saw someone who's following over 5000 people I'm not joking
-Have less F4F but it isn't completely banned

Yes, I agree.

support, this could stop follow-everyone accounts.

No support. If people want to follow other people at random why stop them? Every one uses Scratch in different ways and why should there be policing to people who want to follow everyone in an attempt to make others happy(even if it's a weak one). Follow everyone accounts aren't hurting anyone. Before you say Scratch isn't about popularity look at the front page. It can be discouraging to be rejected curration or featured or never be top remixed/loved but those sections are still up. People can ask for F4F if they want to, if you don't just say no, however it's when they push you after you say no it becomes a problem that you can just report.

muellly wrote:

No support. If people want to follow other people at random why stop them? Every one uses Scratch in different ways and why should there be policing to people who want to follow everyone in an attempt to make others happy(even if it's a weak one). Follow everyone accounts aren't hurting anyone. Before you say Scratch isn't about popularity look at the front page. It can be discouraging to be rejected curration or featured or never be top remixed/loved but those sections are still up. People can ask for F4F if they want to, if you don't just say no, however it's when they push you after you say no it becomes a problem that you can just report.

Exactly. The followers aren't really there to show popularity or anything. No Support.

I'm torn on this.
On one hand I agree with @muellly and @Charles12310 in that we shouldn't be policing Scratchers on how they want to use the site, even if it isn't for it's intended purpose.
On the other hand, I do think that accounts that would be following that many would be misusing the follower button.

What I think the follower button should be used for:

• Keeping up with a certain users activity - you may share interests (seeing what they favorite)/ you want to see what they share next
  

• To show appreciation for the user/ his/her content - you might think they really deserve it
  

• You know the person in real life/ good friend on Scratch - pretty self explanatory, it's showing you don't hate them i'm kidding
  

I probably could come up with more reasons but I can't think of any more right now.

So what really is the use of following 1000+ people?
If there is no benefit to following that many people, sure a limit would be okay.

I'm still not decided though. I may lean towards no, because while it's not doing any good, it's also not causing any harm (that I know of) so I don't see the purpose of limiting it. If it is, then I stand by what I said about followers earlier and I'll say that yes, there should be a limit.
Sorry I got a little crazy with coloring stuff

customhacker wrote:

Okay…



Woah

Wahsp wrote:

customhacker wrote:

Okay…



Woah

Maybe it should be lower, like, 10,000.


Also I am curious what happens when you reach the limit.

I'm really divided on this.

On one side of my brain, I think that the limit should be lower because it would stop “Follow-everyone” accounts and F4F, which is endlessly annoying to me and I know it is annoying to like 5,000,000 other people.

On the other, I think that there shouldn't be a limit because some people are happy doing this (even though it's stupid), like what @Muellly said.

I guess… half support?

muellly wrote:

No support. If people want to follow other people at random why stop them? Every one uses Scratch in different ways and why should there be policing to people who want to follow everyone in an attempt to make others happy(even if it's a weak one). Follow everyone accounts aren't hurting anyone. Before you say Scratch isn't about popularity look at the front page. It can be discouraging to be rejected curration or featured or never be top remixed/loved but those sections are still up. People can ask for F4F if they want to, if you don't just say no, however it's when they push you after you say no it becomes a problem that you can just report.

Exactly. No support.

No support, it's not like bots are running these accounts and following people. If people want to follow a lot of other people, that's their choice.

No support. There's already a limit and there's nothing wrong with following a ton of users.

aking_ wrote:

No support, it's not like bots are running these accounts and following people.

Actually, some follow-everyone accounts are run by bots. There are certain protections (e.g. you can't follow too many people in a short amount of time) but yes, if a bot is following everyone, then it is causing harm because it's taking up memory on the servers.

DisasterPug wrote:

I think there should be a following limit of about 1000 because
-Stop Follow-Everybody accounts
-Stop accounts that are following people for no reason because I saw someone who's following over 5000 people I'm not joking
-Have less F4F but it isn't completely banned

Hmm… it seems that everyone, including me, is really divided on this. It would stop F4F and follow-everyone accounts, but it could cause a lot of people who are happy following lots of people to get angry. Here's a compromise: Maybe you could follow as many people as you want, but you can only follow like 50 people every day? This prevents mass F4F (idk what to call it) and follow-everybody bots.

DisasterPug wrote:

I think there should be a following limit of about 1000 because
-Stop Follow-Everybody accounts
-Stop accounts that are following people for no reason because I saw someone who's following over 5000 people I'm not joking
-Have less F4F but it isn't completely banned

No! I love to follow people, I'm not a spammer or something, but I just like to show my appreciation for other people by following them. Like chessdragon255 said, maybe there should be a limit to the number of followers per day.

customhacker wrote:

Another reason for my no supporting. You are basically trying to make it harder for Scratchers by making the follower limit 10X lower? No. This limit is fine. But I think it can be expanded by another 1,000.

I-Iz-A-Litten wrote:

Wahsp wrote:

customhacker wrote:

Okay…



Woah

Maybe it should be lower, like, 10,000.


Also I am curious what happens when you reach the limit.

Nah, it's fine. Otherwise Scratch Team would have made the limit 10,000.

jokebookservice1 wrote:

Actually, some follow-everyone accounts are run by bots. There are certain protections (e.g. you can't follow too many people in a short amount of time) but yes, if a bot is following everyone, then it is causing harm because it's taking up memory on the servers.

Really? Those accounts should be banned, but I don't see a problem with follow everyone accounts run by actual people.

No support.
While F4F can be annoying, it is also a start for some people. You can always put ‘no f4f’ on your profile and kindly say ‘I don’t do f4f'.
While follow-everyone accounts can also be annoying, its one notification that says Follow_Everyone followed you. They're just trying to spread some kindness.
While people who randomly follow others can be annoying, they may follow people out of kindness, or how good their projects are, or how nice they are.

I don't really see why this is a problem.

DisasterPug wrote:

I think there should be a following limit of about 1000 because
-Stop Follow-Everybody accounts
-Stop accounts that are following people for no reason because I saw someone who's following over 5000 people I'm not joking
-Have less F4F but it isn't completely banned

There is nothing wrong with F4F… I don't do it but just saying

powercon5 wrote:

I believe there is a limit it's just a lot higher. If there would be a lower limit it should be way more than 200.

The limit's really high, Jet-blue hit the limit

People should follow people if they want, no to ask to get followed or even had one of the scratcher max their followers.
No support for that reason.

ComicWorldBros wrote:

People should follow people if they want, no to ask to get followed or even had one of the scratcher max their followers.
No support for that reason.

No, It's a maximum limit of how many people you can follow, not a max amount of followers

muellly wrote:

No support. If people want to follow other people at random why stop them? Every one uses Scratch in different ways and why should there be policing to people who want to follow everyone in an attempt to make others happy(even if it's a weak one). Follow everyone accounts aren't hurting anyone. Before you say Scratch isn't about popularity look at the front page. It can be discouraging to be rejected curration or featured or never be top remixed/loved but those sections are still up. People can ask for F4F if they want to, if you don't just say no, however it's when they push you after you say no it becomes a problem that you can just report.

Exactly. No support.

Water

No way, If there is a limit I'd be how many scratchers there are.

No support. F4F and follow accounts aren't a problem and they deserve to be respected.

Besides, the limit is really high, high enough.

It was annoying because I was using my test account to follow all the people I already was following.

customhacker wrote:

I thought the limit was 10K, wasn't it? Out of every “follow everyone” accounts, I've seen some follow 10,000. Not less, not more. And apparently, they say they have reached “the limit”.

BTW, semi-support-ish, because although I do agree that people can do what they want, why would someone follow thousands of people anyway?

I support.
You're supposed to follow someone to be aware of he/she's activity on the website. But if you follow thousands and thousands of people, any scratcher activity would be hidden by the huge amount of datas you get non stop.

No support, there's already a maximum, why change it if Scratch Team themselves thought it work?

Also, shouldn't this be closed, since we found out @Paddle2See talked about how there is one currently? I dunno if it should but…

Scratch_Attacker wrote:

Also, shouldn't this be closed, since we found out @Paddle2See talked about how there is one currently? I dunno if it should but…

I think so, maybe XD

i'm trying to follow everyone on scratch.

LuigiRocks09 wrote:

i'm trying to follow everyone on scratch.

my general knowledge wrote:

10k Follow Limit

At the time of making this post:

Statistics wrote:

54,170,796 users registered,

have fun with that

LuigiRocks09 wrote:

i'm trying to follow everyone on scratch.

Every0ne does that as well. Although that's virtually impossible, as new Scratch accounts are made every day. Besides, trying to follow everyone defies the point of following.

As for this suggestion, I must say no support. There's no need to restrict Scratchers from giving other Scratchers support.

There is already a following limit. A single user can follow a maximum of 10K people.

Full Support!

I think it would be a good idea to stop people from following people just to get followers.
In my opinion, the follow limit should be 999.

Is the following limit 9999?

250119code2 wrote:

Is the following limit 9999?

Yes, it is. (Or it's 10000?)

I think the limit is 10K

Wait look at this https://scratch.mit.edu/users/86fjn/following/

Gipthepig424 wrote:

Wait look at this https://scratch.mit.edu/users/86fjn/following/

So the limit is 9998…

PizzaAddict4Life wrote:

Gipthepig424 wrote:

Wait look at this https://scratch.mit.edu/users/86fjn/following/

So the limit is 9998…

That person was following 9999 people a few hours ago.

Maximouse wrote:

PizzaAddict4Life wrote:

Gipthepig424 wrote:

Wait look at this https://scratch.mit.edu/users/86fjn/following/

So the limit is 9998…

That person was following 9999 people a few hours ago.

Hmm, maybe in a few more hours it will become 9997 then 9996 9995 and so on?

Anyway, I don't think that there should be a smaller follower limit, what would that accomplish exactly?

PizzaAddict4Life wrote:

Maximouse wrote:

PizzaAddict4Life wrote:

Gipthepig424 wrote:

Wait look at this https://scratch.mit.edu/users/86fjn/following/

So the limit is 9998…

That person was following 9999 people a few hours ago.

Hmm, maybe in a few more hours it will become 9997 then 9996 9995 and so on?

Anyway, I don't think that there should be a smaller follower limit, what would that accomplish exactly?

It seems like the user who followed that many people is deleted.

Also, I'm okay with the current follow limit.

The ST already set it to 10,000